Hi Patric, I'm grad researcher from Robotics Institute at CMU, I use mxnet in my research in video analysis, and your idea to fund the students/researchers to present their works on the popular conference is really interesting.
Best Wayner On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Zhao, Patric <patric.z...@intel.com> wrote: > Regarding the marketing, one example from the GTC, which is ongoing at San > Jose, US now. > > > https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p= > > There are total 850 sessions and I search the keyword of MXNet, Pytorch > and Tensorflow. > The session with MXNet is still very little though there are lots of very > great features and advantages from MXNet. > > I suggest to encourage and fund the students/researchers to present their > works on the popular conference. > I know talking is easy but maybe the decision maker can allocate more > resources for marketing. > > > MXNet 7 times, about 0.8% > > https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=MXNet&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p= > > Pytorch 22 times, 2% > > https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=pytorch&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p= > > Tensorflow 46 times, 5% > > https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=tensorflow&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p= > > --Patric > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lin Yuan [mailto:apefor...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:15 AM > > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building > > > > Zach, > > > > Thanks for joining in the mxnet project and your very thoughtful > discussion. > > We do have virtual hangout/meetups. Please refer to > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Meetups+and+Hangou > > ts > > > > I also strongly agree with your 4). I think we should have a clear > roadmap on > > our wiki page and/or github repo. > > > > Again, welcome on board! > > > > Lin > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 7:33 AM Zhao, Patric <patric.z...@intel.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Very great points! > > > > > > +1 for 4) and 5) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Zach Boldyga [mailto:z...@scalabull.com] > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:33 AM > > > > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org > > > > Subject: Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building > > > > > > > > This is a great discussion, thanks for opening, Carin! > > > > > > > > As a newcomer to MXNet and Apache communities in general, I’ve been > > > > considering what I can bring to the table here, and what importance > > > > it > > > would > > > > have to me. > > > > > > > > I'm not employed by large organizations, and communities like this > > > > are perhaps the only way to be involved in projects of such a large > > > > scale and importance. An opportunity to join this type of team > > > > without the full commitment of employment is fantastic! I see > > > > potential for this to be a > > > form > > > > of validation, a chance to meet others and build professional > > > relationships, > > > > and a vehicle to learn from some of the most well-educated people in > > > > the industry. > > > > > > > > That said, here’s what I’ve noticed thus far: > > > > > > > > 1. There is a healthy amount of activity in Github Issues, and the > > > committers > > > > are doing a great job at allowing newcomers to jump in. I was able > > > > to get started on my first ticket within 10 minutes of searching > thru issues. > > > > > > > > 2. The dev mailing list is a great place to discuss all of the > > > > nuances > > > of the > > > > project. I also like meeting people and it would be rewarding to get > > > > to > > > know > > > > people in the community via Skype or in-person meetups! This doesn’t > > > > have to be for everyone, and I don’t think it’s appropriate for Q&A, > > > > but for > > > some > > > > people a social element purely for the sake of putting names with > > > > faces > > > can > > > > be rewarding. I’m open to virtual meetups :) > > > > > > > > 3. My first commit was smooth. When approaching the second one, I’m > > > > hitting some hiccups. For instance, I recently created a JIRA ticket > > > based on a > > > > Github Issue some users reported, and the ticket has been sitting > > > > for a > > > week > > > > without any activity. Should I just dig in and open a PR? How do the > > > > commiters decide what can and can’t reasonably go into the project? > > > > We may be able to make some changes to the contribution > > > > documentation or processes to make it easier for first time > > > > contributors to ramp-up into > > > regular > > > > contributors? > > > > > > > > 4. I would love to see more discussion about the future of MXNet. I > > > imagine > > > > those who have been involved in the project for a long time have > > > > thoughts about next major steps, but as an outsider I’m not sure > > > > where to find > > > this > > > > information. The roadmap on Github is fairly short-term and > > > > outdated, and lots of interesting ideas are sprouting in projects > > > > like TF Swift as of > > > 2019. > > > > > > > > 5. Something I’ve observed across many Apache projects: there isn’t > > > > much focus on marketing. I wonder why? A tool like Tensorflow is > > > > reaching 10x more people, mainly because of marketing. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Zach Boldyga > > > > Scalabull | Founder > > > > 1 (866) 846-8771 x 101 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Tianqi Chen > > > > <tqc...@cs.washington.edu> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > what happens (also) happens in the mail-list. > > > > > > > > > > If there is a certain things or person’s contribution is only > > > > > known by colleagues, it is a indication of things that should be > > > > > improved toward more apache way. > > > > > > > > > > Tianqi > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:42 AM Isabel Drost-Fromm > > > > > <isa...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:03:57PM -0800, Steffen Rochel wrote: > > > > > > > I agree with Tianqi on "One approach toward building a more > > > > > > > diverse community is to acknowledge the fact that we want to > > > > > > > encourage > > > > > > interactions > > > > > > > in the Apache way beyond our physical cycle." However, I > > > > > > > disagree with > > > > > > his > > > > > > > suggestion regarding "One principle to toward that is to > > > > > > > encourage PMC members only nominate committers from other > > > > > > > organizations" for the following reasons: [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent quite some time digging remembering that a similar topic > > > > > > had been discussed somewhere at the ASF at some point in time > > > > > > with many whys, pros and cons towards contributor employer > > > > > > diversity - finally found a long and winding thread there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7a7412316ddbe1d43f5fb3d3703ea25 > > > > a6 > > > > > > > > > > > b26e56de602e27e175785c0@1337815698@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.o > > r > > > > g%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one answer in there from Roy Fielding which has a > > > > > > similar story to the one that you are describing, Steffen. My > > > > > > main takeaway of what was discussed back then: "Diversity is > > > > > > only a warning sign that means we need to check for decisions > > > > > > made in our forums and advise accordingly." > > > > > > > > > > > > The questions I personally tend to ask myself: How easy is it to > > > > > > follow > > > > > the > > > > > > project from just subscribing to it's mailing lists (remember > > > > > > the "if it didn't happen on the mailing list, it didn't > > > > > > happen"), get active, get involved, be treated as a fellow > > > > > > project member and be voted in as committer and PMC member. > > > > > > > > > > > > For a more condensed text on the topic of "ASF projects are made > > > > > > of individuals" > > > > > > you might also want to check out the ASF guidelines over there: > > > > > > https://www.confluent.io/apache-engineering-guidelines/ > > > > > > https://www.confluent.io/apache-guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > Related material was published at ApacheCon : > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFNE0IpKOxU > > > > > > > > > > > > There's also lovely content that was recently produced over at > > > > > > dev@community: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/183nXPAxpJymQBOYOt1FnFaahRc > > Q > > > > skI > > > > > vOyIvHRC6UAnE/edit#slide=id.g4a86a2ca5a_0_69 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isabel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
