I support idea of putting brands of MXNet and Gluon closer together. I agree with your argument, Mu, but MXNet is quite far away from TF place at this time so I don’t know how well that argument is transferable from TF position to MXNet position.
MXNet Imperative is definitely too restrictive of a name, we can come up with better one... MXNet-M for example, stands for MXNet-Modified (military connotation). If naming is the only thing we need to figure out - that is a good place to be in __ -- Thanks, Denis On 3/22/19, 4:48 PM, "Mu Li" <[email protected]> wrote: Gluon is about imperative neural network training and data loading. ndarray is another large imperative module. Besides, Gluon also supports symbolic execution after hybridizing. mxnet imperative might not be a good name for it. Another choice is high-level API, that's how TF talks about Keras. On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:38 PM Yuan Tang <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:29 PM Lin Yuan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > +1. > > > > Just to give some of my real experience: > > 1) I advertised a recent GluonNLP blog and many responses are "This seems > > nice. So is Gluon a new library to replace MXNet?" > > 2) We visited customers in a unicorn company who showed interests in > MXNet > > but none of the engineers knew the relationship between GluonNLP/GluonCV > > and MXNet > > 3) When integrating MXNet to Horovod and adding examples, I received > > comments like "What is Gluon? Is it a new library in addition to MXNet?" > > > > Everyone is talking about PyTorch nowadays, but not Caffe2 anymore > although > > the latter is still serving as a backend component. Maybe we should also > > doubledown on one brand? > > > > Lin > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:02 PM Pedro Larroy < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi dev@ > > > > > > We heard feedback from users that the Gluon name is confusing. Some of > > > them don't even know it's MXNet and it's unclear the relationship with > > > MXNet > > > > > > Would it make sense to rebrand Gluon to just MXNet or MXNet > > > imperative? Diluting brands and names is never a good idea. > > > > > > There's also gluonhq which is related to JavaFX which adds to the > > > confusion, search engine friendliness is not high as well. > > > > > > Pedro. > > > > > >
