"Does merging mshadow into mxnet bring any actual benefit for customers in
sense of performance, portability, or anything else?"

It would improve the contributor experience in that if we find a bug which
requires fixes in both repos, we won't have to coordinate 2 PRs.  It would
also make compilation more straightforward (as others have mentioned).

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:56 AM Aaron Markham <aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1
> Reduced complexity. Choice of math library... Hopefully you can just
> install MKL and not be forced into mshadow's dependency on OpenBLAS. This
> could make Windows setup easier.
> Maybe this issue will get fixed: #11769.
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 00:51 Junru Shao <junrushao1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does merging mshadow into mxnet bring any actual benefit for customers in
> > sense of performance, portability, or anything else?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:38 PM Tianqi Chen <tqc...@cs.washington.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Technically, mshadow is sufficient for MXNet. Adopting other libraries
> (
> > > eigen or xtensor) will unnecessarily increase the codebase complexity
> > > without any additional gains.
> > >
> > > Given that mshadow is only used by mxnet. I do support donating it into
> > > mxnet codebase.
> > > To respect the original mshadow community. I would recommend starting a
> > > community RFC In the mshadow github issue for a week, before we start
> the
> > > migrating process.
> > > Also, I would recommend a rebase merge just like the case of MXNet.jl
> > code
> > > base to preserve the contribution history.
> > >
> > > Tianqi
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:25 PM Alfredo Luque
> > > <alfredo.lu...@airbnb.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do you have a link to both of these proposals?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 20:14 Anirudh Acharya <anirudhk...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Pedro,
> > > > >
> > > > > mshadow is mostly used for tensor arithmetic. There have been
> > > discussions
> > > > > about including it within mxnet. I think it is a good idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > As a more long term solution using libraries like eigen to perform
> > > linear
> > > > > algebra operations was also suggested by anirudh2290@. I think
> > > xtensor(
> > > > > https://github.com/QuantStack/xtensor ) can also be a candidate
> > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Anirudh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 7:03 PM Pedro Larroy <
> > > > pedro.larroy.li...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some developers have noticed that working in mshadow is
> cumbersome
> > as
> > > > > > it's a 3rdparty subrepo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since mshadow is a bunch of headers which don't have much of
> > > > > > independent tests / library functionality, me and other
> developers
> > > > > > believe that it would be good to assimilate this code in the
> > > > > > repository for ease of contribution and changes without having to
> > go
> > > > > > trough contortions to test PRs that modify mshadow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would anybody oppose this change?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks and have a nice weekend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pedro.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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