On the JCP page for JSR 252 (JSF 1.2)<http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=252> 
there is a first lineup of the JSF 2.0
agenda:

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Sun is committed to filing a separate JSR for JavaServer Faces 2.0 that will 
focus primarily on tools support, and secondarily on new features. The 
following features will specifically not be addressed in this JSR, but may be 
addressed in the JSR for JavaServer Faces 2.0:

      * improved tools support
      * additional components in the standard component library (for example, 
the Form File Upload component)
      * JSR227 aware JSF components
      * client side, inter-component, multi-form validation 
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Somewhere I read, that the improved tools support is meant to integrate 
Oracle's proposal...

regards
Alexander



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:54 AM
To: 'MyFaces Development'; [email protected]; 'Jonas Jacobi'
Subject: RE: Providing component design-time meta data

I just read the proposal and think now it would
be interessting, to become a (common) community-based
standard on that.

Has anyone read the proposal too?
BTW. I guess by SUN there is a proposal,
that addresses this issue for Studio Creator too.
But I am not sure...

I thing it's important for authors of JSF componets
to see their components supported by *any* (or nearly all).

I remember to some questions on MyFaces user list,
"howto use MyFaces' components with Sun Creator"
So ok, if anybody is *supporting* this feature,
that's fine.

But then, there comes the next, "howto integrate
the MyFaces' extentions with IBM's JSF"?
etc.

A common standard on that would be a great deal.
Also the proposal says, that's the most of *Metadata*
for JSF components is included in TLDs for JSP Taglib,
but perhaps, on a long term, there are other usages
as JSP for JSF components. (see [1])

Sure, that's all disscussable, but why not
talking about that? Perhaps the existing
proposals could be merged, to become 
one standard, based on a disscussion
started by a growing community like
our ;-)

Just my 2 cents.

Matthias


[1] http://tinyurl.com/68ufe



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonas Jacobi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:08 PM
> To: [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; Matthias Wessendorf
> Subject: Providing component design-time meta data
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have had an email exchange with Matthias about JSF, MyFaces and ADF
> Faces and what level of design time support faces component authors 
> would, or could, expect from tools vendors such as (in my 
> case) Oracle's 
> JDeveloper.
> 
> A couple of months back we (the Oracle ADF Faces team) posted
> a proposal 
> for design-time metadata for JSF at the JSFCentral website 
> (http://www.jsfcentral.com/articles/oracle_metadata_proposal.html).
> 
> Matthias thought it would be a good idea if I sent an email to this
> mailing list asking for feedback on the proposal.
> 
> One of the concerns that we have is the lack of information
> provided by 
> the JSF spec that defines what syntax to use for associating 
> additional 
> metadata with faces components. This lack of information can 
> force tools 
> vendors to come up with their own syntax to support 
> additional metadata 
> for custom components, which would force component authors to have to 
> deal with different solutions for different IDEs.  If there is a 
> standard in this area, component authors would be able to provide 
> metadata in one format that will work in all tools, and the end user 
> will be in the ideal situation of being able to pick the tool 
> they want 
> to use independently from the component set that best meets 
> their needs.
> 
> The goal would be to have a good and productive discussion about this
> topic/proposal and try to come up with a solution that all parties 
> involved (component authors, tools vendors etc...) could 
> agree upon, and 
> then put it in front of the EG as a proposal from the community to 
> enhance JSF. As one of the leading JSF organizations comments and 
> contributions from MyFaces to this proposal are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Matthias please feel free to correct me if I interpret your email
> incorrectly.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jonas
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Jonas Jacobi
> Oracle JDeveloper - JSF & ADF Faces
> Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores
> 94065 California, US
> http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

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