OK so I have that confused.  It seemed like  there was a very low
threshold to create a new sandbox project (I think that part I
remember correctly) but I guess the people advocating for them (who
were not committters) had to submit patches.

sean


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:37:39 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
> 
> > I think we are talking about a "sandbox" such as the one used by
> > commons.  You do not have to be an ASF committer to commit to the
> > sandbox but you need to be a committer to start a new sandbox project
> > (I think I have that right.)  That could be a good way to encourage
> > new contributions.
> 
> Erm, no. You *must* be an ASF committer to be able to commit to any ASF
> repository. The rule for the Commons Sandbox is that any existing ASF
> committer can request commit access, but you still have to have earned
> commit privileges elsewhere in the ASF first.
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> > I still think we are getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with some
> > of these discussions.  There's no harm in discussing these ideas
> > (which are all very interesting) but we still have some basics to take
> > care of.  There is the issue of the next release (I noticed nobody has
> > voted on this yet), the lack of documentation, the mailing list and
> > cvs migration (from incubator-myfaces) to (myfaces), nighthly builds
> > and the lack of a formalized release process.
> >
> > I know none of these outstanding issues is very exciting but we should
> > probably get a few things in order before going very far with new
> > proposals.  This is not to discourage discussion on these matters,
> > just a friendly reminder :-)
> >
> > sean
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:18:08 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My only comment is to remind people that the ASF and SourceForge are
> >>> quite different in the way they work. The ASF is a meritocracy, while SF
> >>> tends to be more of a free-for-all. The relevance of this to a component
> >>> repository is that just because someone shows up at MyFaces with a new
> >>> component doesn't mean that they can necessarily get it added. It would
> >>> depend on whether or not they have a history with the project, and
> >>> whether the existing community deems that they have sufficient merit to
> >>> be invited to join - or whether existing committers are willing to take
> >>> responsibility for the component themselves. Of course, SF *can* work
> >>> this way as well. It's just not required to do so.
> >>
> >> I like the Struts way and their *incubator* on SF :-)
> >> Some of the inventions that were placed their migrated
> >> after a period into the core of Struts.
> >>
> >> So why not having such a thing for something like "Apache Faces"?
> >> Components from encouraged users could first integrated into a
> >> SF project, and may come into Apache Faces Components...
> >>
> >> Just a thought,
> >>
> >> Sure, time is also a factor for that. But perhaps it is worth
> >> to think about something like that!
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>> So basically you need to decide how you want a central repository to
> >>> work before you can decide whether it should live at the ASF as part of
> >>> MyFaces, or live somewhere else such as SourceForge.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Martin Cooper
> >>>
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