Sorry I'm coming into this late, so forgive me if this was covered and I missed it:
What is the status on getting access to the TCK? > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:56 AM > To: MyFaces Development > Subject: Re: Who belongs to the 'apsite' group on Minotaur? > > IMO we have reached an acceptable solution. Here is the text I was > planning to add to the website: > > MyFaces 1.0.9(m9) is now available. The (m9) stands for > milestone 9. The license agreement covering JSF and all other JCP > based > specifications require that we use this terminology and > avoid the word "final." Once MyFaces passes the TCK we will be able > to > refer to our releases as final. This is one of the > reasons why we initially pulled the release announcement from the > website a > few days ago. But the release is official now and is > available through your nearest Apache mirror. Enjoy! > > > I think the users will understand that we stand behind the release but > that it still needs to comply with Sun's license before we can be > final. The filenames themsevles will not contain beta or milestone or > anything to that effect. > > Craig, do you think this is acceptable? > > sean > > > On 4/14/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That may have been the approach that JBoss took, but Apache's policy > > is to obey the requirements on Apache projects that implement JSRs. > > > > Craig > > > > On 4/14/05, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, please forgive me if I missed some important stuff from the beginning of the thread. > > > > > > My point was simply that Sun should not force us to use a "lesser" name. Unless I've missed it, > I don't see that the license actually says anything like that anyway. >From what I understand, and > this is the way it was for J2EE, we are not allowed to call ourselves a JSF implementation until we > pass TCK. That seems to be the meaning of paragraph 2 of the license. BTW, I'm not an attorney and > I don't play one on the net. > > > > > > Of course I'm sure everyone wants us to pass TCK, Sun included. This is why I think we should > contact someone with authority on this to make sure Sun won't get bent out of shape if we just call > it MyFaces 1.0.9. Have we done that? > > > > > > Calling it beta or release candidate or whatever hurts the project as it implies that MyFaces is > not ready for prime time. > > > > > > This just seems like common sense to me. > > > > > > Stan Silvert > > > JBoss, Inc. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thu 4/14/2005 6:18 PM > > > To: Stan Silvert > > > Cc: MyFaces Development; Sean Schofield > > > Subject: Re: Who belongs to the 'apsite' group on Minotaur? > > > > > > On 4/14/05, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > <rant> > > > > It seems to me that all this will be very confusing for users whether we > > > > call this "Beta" or "non-final". We might as well call it "horse poop", > > > > because nobody will want to use it in a real app. > > > > > > > > It IS MyFaces 1.0.9. It should only be called "Beta" if it is not ready > > > > for prime time. > > > > > > > > I know that before the JBoss Application Server passed the TCK we didn't > > > > go around calling our product "Beta". > > > > </rant> > > > > > > And that was the subject of considerable discussions :-). > > > > > > > > > > > Can we get a clarification from Sun as to what the requirements are? > > > > I'm sure they will be reasonable about it. > > > > > > See the spec license at the front of the JSF specification, available at: > > > > > > http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=127 > > > > > > In particular, the second paragraph under "NOTICE: LIMITED LICENSE GRANTS". > > > > > > Everyone has always wanted MyFaces to pass the TCK and be certified -- > > > it's just time to get with the program. > > > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert > > > > JBoss, Inc. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > callto://stansilvert > > > > > > Craig McClanahan > > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > > (Was co-spec-lead for JSF 1.0) > > > > > > > > > > > >
