I still have to express my disapprobation concerning the use of subversion. But as there is no choice anyway I revise my (non-binding) vote to

-0

Oliver


Oliver Rossmueller wrote:

While subversion has it's merits

-1 from me to switch to subversion at this point in time.

We had this discussion a few times in the past and IMHO the most important argument against svn has not changed until today: tool support for subversion is far from what's available for CVS so this switch would be a step back in developer productivity from my POV. And I hate these stuipid long revision ids subversion uses as I'm not able to memorize them for more than a minute's time ;-)

As for source history: as far as I followed the discussions there will be some moving/renaming of top-level directories in the myfaces module so this can be done on filesystem level in the repository without loosing history (same way as we did when migrating the sources from sourceforge to ASF). This might be not that comfortable as it would be using svn, but it can be done.

Oliver

Manfred Geiler wrote:

Final release 1.0.9beta is only a question of hours now. After
publication will be the best time to finally move our repository out
of the incubator.
We have already discussed and voted about the SVN issue, but there are
some new and changed circumstances and I would like to find out if
there are still committers who have serious objection against SVN.
Cons:
- IntelliJ users still do not have integrated SVN support.
Pros:
- SVN is the new repository technology for ASF. At the long term all
Apache projects should have moved to SVN. So it's unwritten common
sense that new top level projects should start with SVN from the
beginning.
- As you know, SVN is able to keep history for renamed and moved files
and dirs. Just now we are discussing some serious structural changes
(subprojects, sandbox, etc.) If we do that now in CVS we would loose
valuable history for many files.
- TortoiseSVN is a powerful alternative for all IntelliJ users in the meantime.


So here is my definite
+1 for switching from CVS to Subversion

-Manfred






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Oliver Rossmueller
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http://www.rossmueller.com



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