Gotcha. 

On 5/13/05, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry,  I was responding to Manfred. I think i came in on the middel
> of a conversation without knowing the context ;-) my bad :D.
> 
> "Does svn make a diff and some kind of optimization during the final commit?
> Otherwise we would always have a new repository version for every
> single file regardless if it was really changed or not."
> 
> I was simply saying that the change is maintained on the commit. It is
> not maintained based on the number of files that have changed. So, if
> you changed 20 files, deleted 10 and replaced 4  the overall version
> number would only increment by 1 if you perform it in 1 commit.
> 
> Brandon
> 
> On 5/13/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brandon,
> >
> > I take it you are saying you should not svn delete and svn add over
> > and over again?  If so, I agree with you.  My plan was to do a regular
> > delete and then commit.  TortoiseSVN seems to allow this bug svnant
> > does not.  So I am stuck.
> >
> > Anyone have a suggestion on how I can do this easily in Ant?
> > Obviously one could write scripts, etc. but I'm looking to do it in
> > Ant if possible.
> >
> > sean
> >
> >
> > On 5/13/05, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > This is how SVN functions. It strongly recommends against trying to
> > > subvert this functionality. SVN works on the idea that 1 change to the
> > > repository is a change to the whole repository. You CAN diff your
> > > repository and see changes on various levels. So, you can see what has
> > > changed and get a report the same as CVS. I'd recommend that you read
> > > the SVN manual.  http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > On 5/13/05, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Does svn make a diff and some kind of optimization during the final 
> > > > commit?
> > > > Otherwise we would always have a new repository version for every
> > > > single file regardless if it was really changed or not.
> > > > -Manfred
> > > >
> > > > 2005/5/13, Bruno Aranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > Yes, Sean, this is how it should be. You first svn delete all HTMLs 
> > > > > and then
> > > > > regenerate them and svn add the new files. If you then check the 
> > > > > status of
> > > > > the svn, it will tell you that all regenerated files are 'replaced' or
> > > > > 'added', depending if they existed before, and the not regenerated 
> > > > > files are
> > > > > marked with 'delete'. After the commit, you will have only the 
> > > > > regenerated
> > > > > files in the repository.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Bruno
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2005/5/13, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > Manfred,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I too seem to recall that forrest has a clean command but I don't
> > > > > > think that will help with the javadoc and tlddoc (unless there are
> > > > > > comparable commands for those.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruno,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The delete command would be fine but we don't know in advance which
> > > > > > files are to be deleted.  Ex. We remove a class file and so we no
> > > > > > longer want the corresponding HTML file in the javadoc.  Are you
> > > > > > saying that deleting the files with svn delete and then regenerating
> > > > > > them will only result in an svn delete for the files that were not
> > > > > > replaced?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sean
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/13/05, Bruno Aranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think you should first mark the files as 'deleted' with the svn 
> > > > > > > delete
> > > > > > > command, then, these files will be deleted automatically on 
> > > > > > > commit...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Bruno
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2005/5/13, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > If I remember right, there is already a forrest "clean" target 
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > empties the site build dir.
> > > > > > > > -Manfred
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2005/5/13, Sean Schofield < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> > > > > > > > > I double-checked and realized that Forrest was *not* deleting 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > defunct files.  So next I will try having ant remove all of 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > website files (*.html, etc.) and then generate them all over 
> > > > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > > I'll then see if the defunct files are automatically removed 
> > > > > > > > > on the
> > > > > > > > > commit.  Regular commit is working fine so I have high hopes 
> > > > > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > sean
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 5/12/05, Martin Cooper < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Never mind.  I got it working so I don't need the distro. 
> > > > > > > > > > >  One
> > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > > > question though.  Have you ever used ant and svn to 
> > > > > > > > > > > "delete"
> > > > > files
> > > > > > > > > > > that were already checked in.  We're rebuilding our 
> > > > > > > > > > > website and
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > files need to be removed if the javadoc changes etc.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No, I haven't tried delete. I've only used checkout and 
> > > > > > > > > > update. It
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > "just work", though. ;-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Martin Cooper
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > sean
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/3/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, 3 May 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Are you using javahl as well?  I couldn't get a binary 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> version
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> jar and the build file from the source had several 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> issues
> > > > > > > (including
> > > > > > > > > > >>> lacking a jar command.)  I moved to jsvn after reading
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > >>> the subversion site about jsvn being the most complete 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> java
> > > > > svn
> > > > > > > > > > >>> implementation.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> The distro I picked up has a svnjavahl.dll in it, yes. I 
> > > > > > > > > > >> don't
> > > > > > > recall
> > > > > > > > > > >> where I got the binaries from, but I picked up "svnant
> > > > > 0.9.13.zip"
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > >> somewhere. I can send it to you off-list if you want.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Martin Cooper
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I think I have it working now but I'm doing a few more 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> tests.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> sean
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On 5/3/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, 3 May 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> OK.  I have SVN working at my office now.  Next step 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> is to
> > > > > check
> > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> SVN and Ant.  Anyone have any experience with using 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> SVN with
> > > > > > > Ant?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Looks like I need to hunt around for a custom task 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> since its
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> of the core or optional tasks.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I use SvnAnt, which works just fine.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> http://subclipse.tigris.org/svnant.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Martin Cooper
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> sean
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On 5/3/05, Sean Schofield < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> First I will try to get SVN working for nightly 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> build.  The
> > > > > > > infra
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> people at my work have still not figured out how to 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> for SVN (Grrrrr.)  I need to get that resolved ASAP. 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>  Then
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > will fix
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the build script.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I haven't had a chance to look at Manfred's website 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> build
> > > > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I will investigate that next and look into 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> automating that
> > > > > plus
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> javadoc.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> sean
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 5/3/05, Manfred Geiler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> ok, I added the javadoc and tlddoc creation to
> > > > > build-site.xml
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> so, on site creation those dirs are updated 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> automatically.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> did also a "svn up" on minotaur, but mirrors have 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not been
> > > > > > > synced yet.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -Manfred
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2005/5/3, Manfred Geiler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> tldoc and javadoc on homepage are currently 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> broken. Will
> > > > > try
> > > > > > > to upload
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> them again ASAP.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I think it was my fault, because I cleaned up the 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > > dir
> > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> time before I checked it out from SVN. So I will 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> add
> > > > > tldoc
> > > > > > > and javadoc
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to the site in SVN, so that this cannot happen 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > future.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Sean, is it possible to add the doc creation and 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> upload
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the nightly build?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The following steps would be great:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  * automatically build docs in ${ 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project.dir}/../site
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  * SVN commit it automatically
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  * sftp it to minotaur
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> -Manfred
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2005/5/3, Grant Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> We probably now need to urgently update the 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> nightly
> > > > > build
> > > > > > > script to send
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everything to Subversion instead of CVS.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Sean ? :)
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