Obsidian has been used many many times in different products,
there might be some kind of law problem there in the long run
(I just recalled Obsidian entertainment)
Given the current state of affairs of rampand going lawyers especially
in germany, although I like the name, it might become problematic
in the long run for people using the stuff.
Werner
Manfred Geiler wrote:
One last proposal from my side for a "catchy" name for the new
components and extensions sub project.
(Devised by a good friend of mine)
"Apache Obsidian"
Obsidian = a stone that can have many colors and serve different
purposes: decoration, arrow head, pendulum, ...
And there is a nice connection: this stone is also known as "Apache Tears".
Ok, someone of you will again annotate: hey, "tears", "arrow head" -
negative touch, and that... ;-)
http://www.bestcrystals.com/obsidian.html
Yes, the legend is a sad story, but it's also kind of commemoration.
So, I do not count it negative in that sense.
Sorry, for once more annoying you with that. But as we saw at the
JavaOne, there is already a very very great interest in our project.
And the interest will grow. And the greatest interest will be in our
custom component set. I insist, that to be market ready and to be able
to compete we *must* have a catchy name for our components. People
sitting together at lunch do not say "Hey, have you already tried the
Apache JSF Components and Extensions blabla?". They say things like:
"You want some cool JSF component set? Hey, look at Apache Obsidian -
that really rocks!"
I do not see the necessity for a self-explaining name. Why? If a guy
is searching, he will do some googling and land on our sub-project
page very soon. Give me a reality scenario where a person has to guess
from the name of a project, what's it for. I cannot imagine one.
And, hey: We do not say "A beautiful, safe and better browser", we
just say "Firefox", don't we? ;-)
Thoughts?
-Manfred
2005/6/22, Sylvain Vieujot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
My choice would go to Apache Server Faces Extensions because :
- It's the most descriptive
- It's easier to understand it doesn't need the MyFaces extensions
- I've already spent to many hours trying to understand what was beyond
those funny names like Tomcat, Lenya, Forest, Cocoon, ... whereas for
projects like Directory, SpamAssassin, Logging, Commons-xxx, and to some
extends MyFaces, you don't need to read the documentation to know what it's
about.
But if you want to choose a "catchy" name, I'll be ok with that.
Sylvain.
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 20:06 +0200, Bruno Aranda wrote:
Although I am still not a commiter officialy,I think that 'tomahawk'
is the best candidate as it is the most extended and used name right
now. I also think that this must be solved soon as it might be a
source of confusion if everyone calls the subproject in a different
way,
Regards,
Bruno
2005/6/21, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I just wanted to send out a brief offlist email about the subproject
name (for the components + goodies subproject.) Can we reach a
consensus on the name? We're getting a lot of input from people who
otherwise don't contribute much to the project.
Since only the committers votes count, can we come up with a consensus
name to vote on? I didn't include all committers on this email b/c
not all committers are active. Lets decide a name we like and then
put it up for a formal vote on the list. I'd like to reach a decision
before Thursday so I can incorporate it into the SVN reorg.
sean
