I wasn't really thinking we would realease anytime soon.  I certainly
wouldn't recommend next week.  There is still a lot of "recovery" from
the reorg to deal with.  The only major thing that has changed since
the last release is the reorg (which is not really a meaningful change
to the user.)

At a minimum I would suggest we do the following before releasing:

get the examples working (original topic of this thread)
rework the website
get the tomahawk stuff 100% RI compliant
add back missing stuff (WAP)

sean

ps. I will remember the SVN revisions (see below) in case we need to roll back.


Author: schof
Date: Tue Jul  5 13:59:07 2005
New Revision: 209323

Author: schof
Date: Tue Jul  5 09:28:26 2005
New Revision: 209298

Author: schof
Date: Tue Jul  5 09:28:01 2005
New Revision: 209297


On 7/6/05, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, depends on our release road map. We have not yet dicussed when
> the next official release should happen. What are your feelings about
> the reorg? Do you think we could make a first release candidate next
> week? Or is it too early?
> If we release soon, we should pay much attention to the DataTable
> during release testing. Let's wait for a few days and see if DataTable
> problems stabilize. If not or if we discover major issues during
> release vote we can still rollback. Only thing we have to do is
> remember the timestamp of the patch commit. Sean, can you please stick
> a note to your monitor?  :-)
> 
> -Manfred
> 
> 
> 2005/7/6, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Manfred,
> >
> > Its my fault for committing.  Mathias just submitted a patch for
> > people to play with.  I did a quick test but I thought it would be
> > easier for us to comment on code in SVN instead of trying to keep
> > track of a series of patches.
> >
> > Do you want me to roll it back?  I think there have been some good
> > improvements in the implementation.  My vote would be to let Mathias
> > continue working on it as long as he has time.  We can wait a few days
> > ... If this is a problem though I will roll back and we can let him
> > work offline.
> >
> > sean
> >
> >
> > On 7/6/05, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ok, looks like I have to jump into the "bad cop" role now.  :-(
> > >
> > > DataTable is a very very delicate component. I know there were some
> > > long outstanding issues, that need to be fixed.
> > > BUT, DataTable supported some important things that only occured in
> > > very complex scenarious. This makes the code look awful and patchy in
> > > some places (escpecially for the nested table stuff), but all those
> > > things were extensively reconsidered and tested, believe me. MyFaces
> > > DataTable solved many issues that RI DataTable had for a long time
> > > (and still has I think).
> > > Please do not get me wrong. I know that the current situation, where
> > > the original author (=me ;-) currently does not have enough time to
> > > dig deep into the implemention, is not desirable. Sorry for that.
> > > Therefore I really appreciate the fantastic work and help of Sean and
> > > Mathias and I try to phrase careful enough to not intimidate someone.
> > > ;-)
> > > So, please be very very careful with the DataTable. Mathias, if you
> > > have really made it to get DataTable easier and clearer, that would
> > > really be great, but please: test, test, test. There will be many
> > > sleeping issues that you might not be aware of by now, believe me. I
> > > remember the hard days (and nights) when I wrote the original
> > > DataTable component.
> > >
> > > No need for panic of course. If you are not able to fix all issues
> > > with features that have worked already (eg. preserveDataTable!) in
> > > reasonable time, we should decide about a rollback scenario. This
> > > would take out the pressure and would give us more time for a more
> > > relaxed discussion.
> > >
> > > Anyway, thanks Mathias for dealing with this "hot iron" and please
> > > keep us up to date.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Manfred
> > >
> > > PS. I would not really be the right cast for a "bad cop", would I?  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2005/7/6, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I have just tried out the simple examples - the dataTable
> > > > implementation seems not to be working anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Now I don't know if this is an issue with the new dataTable
> > > > implementation or with the svn reorg, but we should definitely try to
> > > > fix that.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > On 7/6/05, Bruno Aranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Two more build issues (easy ones). I write them here as a reminder to
> > > > > create a patch later (if no one creates one before, feel free to do
> > > > > so):
> > > > >
> > > > > - When building only a subproject with 'ant dist', associated files
> > > > > (*.tld's etc) do not make into the jar as the build.properties
> > > > > (situated in the subproject parent folder) is not read.
> > > > > - It is missing the dependency on sandbox.jar in the general
> > > > > dependencies, as if you want to create an example backing bean that
> > > > > use a class from the sandbox, the class is not found. This has
> > > > > happened to me while preparing an example for the Jurgen's schedule
> > > > > component. Easy, just include the dependency. I could have done that
> > > > > in the time of writing this lines...
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruno
> > > > >
> > > > > 2005/7/5, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > Thanks to Bruno for helping me test the webapps after the new build.
> > > > > > Here is a list of outstanding issues that he gave me:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruno's List
> > > > > > =========
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 08:55:25,671 ERROR [PropertyResolverImpl]
> > > > > > org.apache.myfaces.examples.misc.Country
> > > > > > javax.faces.el.PropertyNotFoundException: Bean:
> > > > > > org.apache.myfaces.examples.misc.Country, property: cities
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that it is looking for the bean
> > > > > > org.apache.myfaces.examples.misc.Country when it should look for
> > > > > > SimpleCountry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - sandbox.war: The [SOURCE] link does not work because the source 
> > > > > > code
> > > > > > servlet system is not present. (I think you already know that one 
> > > > > > ;-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - tiles.war: Not working, but I don't know too much about tiles. It 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > looking for a missing renderer (UIViewRoot?).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know which is the exact state of the reorg, but it seems to 
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > that it is almost complete. Have you applied the patch for the
> > > > > > AddResource thing, or have you thought an alternative solution? We
> > > > > > could also ask Sylvain as he could shed more light on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And there is also a trivial issue: there is a link to the rssTicker 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the standard examples.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * * *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, there are a few other issues that I intentionally skipped over
> > > > > > for now.  The WAP example is not being built (nor is the WAP code.)
> > > > > > The dynamic code generation is not being done.  We should probably
> > > > > > tweak the build scripts to do this.  Ideally, this can be done in a
> > > > > > manner similar to the rest of the build.  That is, you can run 
> > > > > > foo-all
> > > > > > from the top level build dir or foo from the subproject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If someone wants to help with patches to any of these problems that
> > > > > > would be helpful.  Just post to the dev list so we all know which
> > > > > > issues have been addressed.  For now I don't think we need JIRA 
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > we really should be able to finish these off quickly and they are 
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > priority.  If feel they should go in JIRA that is fine also.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sean
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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