On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It looks like the implicit Object map is missing the following:
>
> application
> request
> session
>
Personally, I would suggest that we *not* try to make implicit
variables for these objects. The main reason is that they will be
different in a servlet and in a portlet environment, and you're likely
to write code that binds you to one environment or the other. You
should strive to acquire anything you need via the ExternalContext
API. (It would also be a potential backwards compatibility issue to
reserve these names in 1.2 when they weren't reserved in 1.0/1.1.)
That being said, a 30 line custom variable resolver implementation
could add this very easily.
Craig
> -- Jacob
>
> Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/12/2005, 05:26:18 PM:
> > No, your email got there (both of them), but I had not had time to read it
> > yet.
> >
> > Martin, a committer, also answered your question, pointing you to the same
> > file.
> >
> > I don't have time to read the spec right now, but if there's a missing
> > "request" object, then submit a bug with a patch. It should be pretty
> > trivial to add in.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On 8/12/05, Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > Hey Mike,
> > > Yeah I'm wondering if my email got sent at all to the
> > > myfaces users list...but I think you touched on a point that I"m
> > > confused on
> > >
> > > I don't see a "request" predefined object. I see "requestScope"
> > >
> > > Shouldn't there be a predefined object "request" that would return the
> > > HttpServletRequest object....that "requestScope" just returns the
> > > requestMap...I would think the resolver would resolve the "request"
> > > variable to the HttpServletRequest somewhere in there but it doesn't
> > > look that way...
> > >
> > > On 8/12/05, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
> > > > Galen, I'm using Myfaces and the jsf-spring.jar resolver. I'm not
> > > > sure if that makes any difference as I've never tried to use
> > > > #{request.serverName} .
> > > >
> > > > I think the Myfaces extensions are now that the point where they
> > > > should work with a non-MyFaces implemention now. If you find a case
> > > > where that's not true, open an bug issue -- there's a category for
> > > > that kind of problem now in the tracker.
> > > >
> > > > As for no one answering your question -- you're not being patent enough
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > I hadn't even seen your question yet. And sometimes it takes a long
> > > > time for a response for a difficult question, depending on which
> > > > committers are on vacation :)
> > > >
> > > > I think the file you're looking for is
> > > > org.apache.myfaces.el.VariableResolverImpl in the impl project. :)
> > > > I found it right off :)
> > > >
> > > > I don't see a "request" predefined object. I see "requestScope"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/12/05, Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > Man I am stumped on this one...I"m looking all through the source and
> > > > > can't figure out how myfaces ever returns the request object in an EL
> > > > > expression and no one on the mailing list is answering my question.
> > > > > What implementation of faces are most people using with facelets?
> > > > > JSF-RI 1.2? If so how do they like it? I'm assuming myfaces components
> > > > > won't play nice yet with that implementation though right?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/11/05, Jacob Hookom wrote:
> > > > > > no, what you are trying to do is *exactly* correct. the only
> > > > > > problem is
> > > > > > that 'request' isn't being resolved by MyFaces.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > when you say 'request', you are getting the request object
> > > > > > (HttpServletRequest) and can access any of its bean properties,
> > > > > > including 'serverName'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > when you say 'requestScope', you are getting the request's attribute
> > > > > > map... same as request.getAttribute(name).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >so am I way off base here trying to call #{request.serverName}
> > > > > > >since
> > > > > > >that's an actual propeties of the request object and not in the
> > > > > > >attribute map? If so I guess there is no easy way to get to the
> > > > > > >request object except wrapping it in a managed bean or something.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 8/11/05, Jacob Hookom wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>It's not the request map, it's the request object. I remember
> > > > > > >>experiencing problems with hashing Strings against small maps-- as
> > > > > > >>MyFaces is using. Sometimes the hash algorithm, because the set
> > > > > > >>is so
> > > > > > >>small, won't hit the correct value and return null. It might be
> > > > > > >>it,
> > > > > > >>might not-- but at least the logs show that Facelets is properly
> > > > > > >>asking
> > > > > > >>for the variable! :-D
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>>Ah disregard that last email doesn't have anything to do with
> > > > > > >>>that
> > > > > > >>>line...definitely something in the variableresolver but I can't
> > > > > > >>>see
> > > > > > >>>anywhere they would actually return the request map
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>On 8/11/05, Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>>So I throw some break points in the VariableResolverImpl i can
> > > > > > >>>>look in
> > > > > > >>>>the _scopes hashmap and see the scope with the key "request"
> > > > > > >>>>but the
> > > > > > >>>>call on line 298
> > > > > > >>>>Scope scope = (Scope) _scopes.get(scopeKey); returns null...I'm
> > > > > > >>>>running jdk 1.5. that probably doesn't matter right. I'll shoot
> > > > > > >>>>this
> > > > > > >>>>question over to the myfaces mailing list see if anyone knows
> > > > > > >>>>why this
> > > > > > >>>>would happen.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>On 8/11/05, Jacob Hookom wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>I know it's working with JSF 1.2, but with MyFaces, I get this
> > > > > > >>>>>in my logs:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>12000 myfaces.el.VariableResolverImpl [WARN] Variable
> > > > > > >>>>>'request' could
> > > > > > >>>>>not be resolved.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>I'm not sure why it can't resolve the request, because it
> > > > > > >>>>>looks like
> > > > > > >>>>>Facelets is asking for the variable, but it isn't returning
> > > > > > >>>>>one.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>Yes
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>On 8/11/05, Jacob Hookom wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>You are using MyFaces with Facelets then?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>Is facelets able to get to the scope objects via EL? I put
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>#{request.serverName} in my page but nothing gets written.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Galen
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>On 8/10/05, Jacob Hookom wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Comments below....
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Galen Dunkleberger wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Hello,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I am sure someone has already asked these questions
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>before so I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>apologize ahead of time for being a facelets newbie and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>asking what
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I'm sure is one of a million "how do i get it to work
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>with MyFaces"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>questions.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I guess my first question is can I use facelets with the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>latest build
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>of MyFaces (pretty sure i can) and if so do I have to do
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>anything
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>special?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Yep, I have MyFaces running with the Hangman demo on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Tomcat 5.0.28
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Can I run Facelets (with MyFaces) under JBoss (Tomcat)?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Or do I need a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>container that supports jsp 2.1 (ie glassfish)?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>That's one of the benefits of Facelets that you can run it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>on Tomcat
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>(older web containers-- JSP 1.2). I even have Facelets
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>running on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>WebLogic 8.1!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I'm asking these question because if i try to deploy my
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>app or any of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>the demo apps people have created i get the following
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>errors
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>20:56:32,859 ERROR [Digester] Parse Error at line 2
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>column 14:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Document is invalid: no grammar found.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Document is invalid: no
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>grammar found.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>20:56:32,906 ERROR [Digester] Parse Error at line 2
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>column 14:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Document root element "faces-config", must match DOCTYPE
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>root "null".
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Document root element
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>"faces-config",
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>must match DOCTYPE root "null".
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Here is my faces-config
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee/web-facesconfig_1_2.xsd";
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>version="1.2">
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>If you are using MyFaces, you would have to resort to the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>web-facesconfig 1.0 or 1.1 (a DTD). You can reference the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>MyFaces
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>examples for proper faces-config definitions:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>"-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD JavaServer
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>Faces Config 1.0//EN"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>"http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd";>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>....
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I'm working with the facelets-0.8.0 and the latest
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>nightly build of myfaces
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Also in eclipse there is an error in my faces-config.xml
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>about
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>'com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler is not a subtype of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>javax.faces.event.ActionListener'
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>I'm assuming that's bogus?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's bogus.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>If you have any other questions, just let me know!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>-- Jacob
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>Any help would be much appreciated.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Galen
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
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