Great!
Let's
discuss the following subjects:
1. What
can ajax frameworks do for MyFaces.
What do you guys expect from an ajax
framework to use it with MyFaces?
Are we
looking for a layered architecture of
Ajax framework? Pluggable transport
layers, controllers, presentation updaters (innerHTML vs DOM)?
Does
MyFaces need a partial page refresh solution, like AjaxAnywhere?
Is
AjaxAnywhere good enough to become a peace of future MyFaces Ajax puzzle?
2. What
MyFaces can do to improve? Should MyFaces become more open to allow easier and
cleaner integration of third party solutions?
2.1.
Today AjaxAnywhere requires STATE_SAVING_METHOD=session to integrate with
MyFaces application. Possibility to indicate a position where JSF tree and state
is saved would be a solution to support STATE_SAVING_METHOD=client. To do so, a
new MyFaces component is needed, something like <t:stateSavingLocation>.
Do you think itÂ’s possible to add such component?
2.2
Another direction is providing some _javascript_ events/callbacks so that user
could catch clicks/actions inside JSF components. First, last, back forward for
dataScroller; column sort for dataTable, etc..
Possible
implementation: on the client side, each MyFaces component provides
addEventListener()/removeEventListener() _javascript_ methods.
What do
you think?
Vitaliy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:10
AM
Subject: Re: Better integration of
AjaxAnywhere and MyFaces
On 11/8/05, Grant
Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I
agree, lets keep this in the open. I'm also interested in the possible
integration of the Taconite library into MyFaces, for example.
I wasn't aware of Taconite until now. It's disappointing to see yet
another library that doesn't bother with namespacing, and that hacks built-in
_javascript_ types. It would be nice if those issues could be fixed before
trying to integrate with something like MyFaces.
--
Martin
Cooper
On 11/7/05, Martin
Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
On 11/7/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd
be very interested to discuss that (me being the creator of some
of
the AJAX enabled components of Apache MyFaces).
contact me at
Google Talk at any time...
Just wanted to point out that taking discussion to GoogleTalk
isn't really a good idea. It shuts everyone else out of the discussion,
and the discussion is no longer available in public archives for people to
come along and read later, or look back on to see why a certain decision
was made.
At the ASF, we encourage all of the development
discussion to take place on the public mailing lists, so that development
decisions aren't being made "in secret", and everyone can see all of
what's going on within the projects. Community is
king.
--
Martin Cooper
regards,
Martin
On
11/7/05, Vitaliy Shevchuk <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
I'm the creator of AjaxAnywhere (
http://ajaxanywhere.sourceforge.net) , an
> Apache 2 licensed
solution for partial page refresh that turns any set of
>
existing JSP or JSF components into AJAX-aware components without
complex
> _javascript_ coding. It also provides a default graceful
fallback possibility
> to keep the application operational with
older browsers.
>
> Since the latest release, AjaxAnywhere
includes a pure JSF implementation
> for a partial page refresh.
Since this point, we consider the project
> interesting enough for
the JSF world.
>
> Would you be interested in some kind of
collaboration/partnership between
> our projects? Today AA is able
to integrate into MyFaces application without
> changing its
Renderers, however some _javascript_ tricks are still required.
>
What do you think of discussing MyFaces + AjaxAnywhere
integration
> possibilities? Of course, AjaxAnywhere is able to
coexist with other AJAX
>
solutions.
>
>
>
> For example: It's difficult
to support client state saving with partial page
> refresh; a new
component that indicates where to save state on the client
> page
would be helpful.
>
> Another example: adding more
events/hooks/callbacks to allow third party
> components
intercepting user clicks inside MyFaces components.
>
>
>
> Any feedback is
welcome.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
> Vitaliy
Shevchuk.
>
>
>
>
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