OK I changed 1.1.3 back to nightly for now.  I also "archived" the
1.1.2 release.  This way users can't report issues against this
version but the issues that Howard assigned to 1.1.2 have been
preserved.

sean

On 11/21/05, Bruno Aranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do also think that this can create confusion if we don't go to a
> discussion process first. We should consider which are the criteria to
> define which are the more important bugs to be fixed or features to be
> implemented for the next version (although, I recall that it was
> decided that votes on an issue was the most important criterium). +1
> For changind 1.1.3 to nightly in the meanwhile...
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruno
>
> 2005/11/21, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I also think we should get rid of the 1.1.3 version (change it back to
> > nightly.)  This is going to cause a lot of confusion.
> >
> > We need to have a group dicussion on how we might change JIRA to give
> > better information.  Perhaps a field for the "scheduled" version which
> > is independent of the version fixed field ...
> >
> > For now I say change 1.1.3 to nightly and create a 1.1.2 branch in
> > order to minimize confusion.  Someone has already asked me offlist
> > which version to report their bug against (they were using the nightly
> > build but now there is 1.1.2 and 1.1.3).
> >
> > sean
> >
> > On 11/21/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well I disagree slightly with how this is being handled.  I think we
> > > should have created a 1.1.2 branch before getting rid of the nightly
> > > version.  And we probably should have taken an informal poll before
> > > doing that.
> > >
> > > I agree that we should have a roadmap before 1.1.2.  I agree with
> > > Manfred that we should release tomahawk along with the implementation.
> > >  That should be the policy until we have a compelling reason to do
> > > otherwise.  If anything there are more useful fixes in tomahawk than
> > > the implementation.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, without a nightly version label in JIRA and without a
> > > 1.1.2 branch, basically every fix that goes into SVN will be part of
> > > the 1.1.2 release.  On the other hand, we don't want to be on the
> > > branch for too long either because we will have to merge down and
> > > people using the nightly won't be able to access the last minute
> > > branch changes until that is done.
> > >
> > > At this point, the 1.1.2 JIRA changes have already been made so I
> > > guess we leave them alone and not add a nightly label until we make
> > > the branch.  I suggest we branch soon but not until we all agree that
> > > its time for a new release.
> > >
> > > sean
> > >
> > > On 11/21/05, Abrams, Howard A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I've done a quick and dirty pass through the open issues, and made the
> > > > following changes:
> > > >
> > > > * Renamed 'Nightly' to '1.1.2'
> > > > * Added a few seemingly very important issues to 1.1.2
> > > > * Left any open issues already marked for 1.1.2/nightly as-is,
> > > > regardless of my opinion of them (in theory they should be removed
> > > > because non api/impl issues shouldn't hold up a release, right?)
> > > > * Created a new 1.1.3 version
> > > > * Added remaining issues that looked reasonably important to 1.1.3.
> > > >
> > > > I think the next step is for the community to take a look and:
> > > > * Nominate any issues that should be added to 1.1.2 or 1.1.3
> > > > * Nominate any issues that should be removed from 1.1.2 or 1.1.3
> > > >
> > > > Then I think we should vote on the 1.1.2 list, and if/when approved,
> > > > move forward with fixing the remaining issues and preparing for a
> > > > release.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts? Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Manfred Geiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:26 AM
> > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > Subject: Re: Plan for 1.1.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > Howard,
> > > > > You are now member of "myfaces-developers" group on Jira. Can you
> > > > > please check if this gives you enough rights?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Manfred
> > > > >
> > > > > 2005/11/21, Abrams, Howard A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > If you're certain that issues on the custom/extended components have
> > > > no
> > > > > > chance of holding up a release (other than taking resources away
> > > > from
> > > > > > fixing issue in the api/impl), then you're right, there isn't a
> > > > need.
> > > > > > However, I think that without a clear plan the issue is confused.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we can use the 'road map' feature of JIRA to pick issues for
> > > > > > each upcoming minor release. I'll volunteer to take a stab at
> > > > creating a
> > > > > > 'road map' for 1.1.2, (if someone can give me any access required).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Manfred Geiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:05 AM
> > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Plan for 1.1.2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, there is nothing to argue against quicker release cycles.
> > > > EXCEPT
> > > > > > > the fact that a new release (not a build!) does not emerge alone,
> > > > ie.
> > > > > > > cannot be fully automated. There are things like release candidate
> > > > > > > voting, testing (!), release notes, homepage updates,
> > > > announcements.
> > > > > > > Which takes time.
> > > > > > > Sean and Bill have spent much much time in releasing so far
> > > > (thanks!)
> > > > > > > and many have helped to make it as easy as possible. But of
> > > > course:
> > > > > > > Any additional help is welcome!
> > > > > > > The more volunteer helpers and testers we have, the faster we can
> > > > have
> > > > > > > our cycles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As Howard did mention, a release plan would be good. Any volunteer
> > > > who
> > > > > > > is willing to look over the open Jira issues and classify them?
> > > > > > > Any thoughts about future milestones?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -0.5 from my side for releasing the API/impl separately:
> > > > > > > There is no need IMHO. API/Impl are the most important parts. So,
> > > > if
> > > > > > > there really is a showstopper, this alone would legitimate a new
> > > > > > > release. Regardless of small bugs in one of the addons or sub
> > > > > > > projects.
> > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Manfred
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2005/11/20, Travis Reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > +1 for the quicker release cycle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/20/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Not sure about the release plan, but +1 for a quicker release
> > > > > > cycle.
> > > > > > > > > Let's not get caught up in the same slow cycle that has
> > > > affected
> > > > > > > > > Struts for so long.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > James Mitchell
> > > > > > > > > 678.910.8017
> > > > > > > > > Skpe: jmitchtx
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Abrams, Howard A wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there a release plan for 1.1.2? It seems there are a
> > > > > > significant
> > > > > > > > > > number of issues on the trunk; some of which may not be
> > > > marked
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > such in JIRA.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, now that we've gotten passed the TCK, moved to SVN,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > broken out the various sub projects, I'd like to revisit the
> > > > > > > > > > subject of releasing the API/impl separately from the
> > > > > > components.
> > > > > > > > > > There are many of us who do not use any of the sub projects,
> > > > so
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > seems silly to hold back a release of the impl due to a bug
> > > > in
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > random fancy component. Any +1's out there?
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
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