Al, My rant wasn't really directed at you personally. It's just that I've seen this complaint from users over and over on different mailing lists and forums. These users are *intentionally* trying to develop complex webapps without javascript. I just can't understand why anybody would bother. And if you were forced to do this by a client, you would be limited in the sophistication that you could achieve so why bother with JSF?
sean On 11/29/05, Alberto Molpeceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It isn't that I was concerned. It's just that I had disabled it (just > testing), and JSF didn't help me to find the error. In fact, often > MyFaces (or JSF in general) doesn't help very much to find errors, > altough they could be clearly mine like in this case. If you make a > mistake I would expect MyFaces to tell me, not just write something > that doesn't work. > > My apologies. > > al. > > > On 11/28/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't understand for the life of me why someone would write a webapp > > that was complicated enough to justify JSF and still be concerned > > about browsers that don't support javascript. I'm sure there are some > > scenarios out there but if you can't count on javascript being enabled > > then IMO, you shouldn't be wasting your time with the overhead and > > complexities of JSF. Just use Struts or something simpler. > > > > sean > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > JSF isn't designed to handle GET requests, so just modifying the link > > > wouldn't be sufficient. In any case, the parameters generated would > > > be far too large :) Take a look at a JSF form submit sometime. > > > > > > The idea of providing an error if you try to use JSF without > > > javascript isn't a bad one. > > > I'm not sure what to suggest, though. I don't think rendering a > > > message stating that you can't use links without javascript is the > > > best solution. Perhaps the server should simply throw a > > > FacesException if someone attempts to render a component that requires > > > javascript, and the parameter is set to false. > > > > > > Maybe some of the other committers can comment on this. > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Alberto Molpeceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 11/28/05, Mike Kienenberger (JIRA) <dev@myfaces.apache.org> wrote: > > > > > [ > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-882?page=comments#action_12358688 > > > > > ] > > > > > > > > > > Mike Kienenberger commented on MYFACES-882: > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Well, we can discuss it on the mailing lists, but the short answer is > > > > > that javascript is required to make the link submit the form. > > > > > Normal anchor tags can't submit forms, so the anchor tag has to use > > > > > javascript to click a submit button. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering, why something to "simply" should need > > > > javascript. I mean, why not simply add all needed parameters to the > > > > link?. Or if really that's not possible, it would be better just write > > > > a message like "don't use commandLink with js disabled" instead of > > > > just rendering a broken link. > > > > > > > > Don't get me worng, I know it's my failure if I don't know what the > > > > specification says, only I have lost around three hours looking for a > > > > solution and am a bit frustrated. > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alberto Molpeceres > alberto.molpeceres @ linkingpaths.com > (+34) 661 304 614 > > Linking Paths > Francisco Maciá 11, 7º - 48014 Bilbao > (+34) 944 764 328 > http://www.linkingpaths.com >
