Ok, still another issue, another vote.
For the short run, Travis should go with commons-logging IMHO. For the long run, it might be optimal to wrap away commons-logging. If someone actually implements that, I don't see a problem with this approach. Simon, you are volunteering, I suppose ;) ? This is something we should do consistently across all subprojects, though. Also for Tobago, also for the eventual Cherokee, etc. So our fellow co-committers get a say in this as well. regards, Martin On 12/15/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Marinschek wrote: > > -1 java.util.logging > > > > +1 commons-logging - cause this is used right now all over the codebase. > > > > If we want to change to use log4j directly, this would be another > > issue, another vote. > > I would prefer to see some myfaces logging API that would be a facade, > avoiding a compilation dependency between general MyFaces classes and > *any* external library for logging (including commons-logging). > > This facade should consist of 2 classes of about 20 lines each, which > simply map directly to commons-logging. Why? Because when a container > producer wants to ship MyFaces but not commons-logging, they then just > write their own mapping to their choice of logging library and repackage > MyFaces. Two classes need to be changed, not hundreds. > > Note that this is *not* duplicating commons-logging functionality (I'm a > commons-logging developer). This simply means that the MyFaces source > code doesn't contain org.apache.commons.logging references anywhere > except in the facade, localising the places where the container producer > needs to make changes. The library as shipped would still have a *hard* > runtime dependency on commons-logging, ie won't even start unless > commons-logging is in the classpath. This is different from the kind of > dependency commons-logging has on log4j/etc, and because of this the > mapping is much simpler and therefore performant. > > Note; I haven't yet proved that the above is possible, though I'm fairly > confident having worked with logging libs for a long while now. This > thread has pushed me to propose the above before I'm really prepared :-) > > Cheers, > > Simon > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
