Hi All,

I just wanted to say that however it works out, I'm very happy to see Oracle looking at releasing the source to the ADF library.

When Obsidium were starting the current JSF-based project I looked around for JSF libraries and came across the ADF stuff. It has many excellent-looking components that aren't available elsewhere. It was with great disappointment that I finally located the license terms, and realised that ADF wasn't an option for our project.

I'm also sure that Oracle has many talented developers and that there are many ideas in ADF that can be used to improve the Tomahawk components.


Having said that, the issues being discussed about community and integration into MyFaces are important. Having ADF available as open source is definitely a benefit to the world. Whether having it as part of MyFaces is good or bad depends upon whether a good team spirit and diverse developer base can be created. I have seen cases before where a group of developers are all co-located, and design decisions are clearly being made "off-line"; that's not good for community. In addition, Apache now has a number of projects which have effectively "died", which reflects poorly on Apache; to avoid this it's necessary to get a diverse group of people active on a project. In the end, while I would really *like* to see ADF as part of the MyFaces project we might keep in mind the idea that it doesn't *have* to be an Apache project in order to be open source. And MyFaces can (and does) work together with other non-Apache open source projects. ADF should become part of MyFaces only if the technical and social fit is right.

I personally am looking forward to seeing the ADF source, and contributing what time I can to the ADF/MyFaces integration. That will be on my own time, though, so no promises how many hours that will be..


Regards,

Simon

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