Good point about merging back down.  Lets wait until we get both core
and tomahawk out the door then.

Sean

On 2/17/06, Bill Dudney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm +1 for doing the move in the trunk and at least bumping to 1.2 or
> maybe 2.0 as Sean suggested.
>
> I don't like the idea of this change right before a release on the
> branch that is going to release at all.
>
> Since the release is imminent I'd also suggest (but that is all it
> is) that we wait for the release to finalize before making the move
> so that any stuff that needs to be merged could be done easily from
> the branch down to the trunk.
>
>
> TTFN,
>
>
> Bill Dudney
> MyFaces - myfaces.apache.org
> Wadi - incubator.apache.org/wadi
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Sean Schofield wrote:
>
> > What if we changed the commons version on the trunk to 2.0.0 then to
> > address the major change issue?
> >
> > I agree with Mike that users can always slowly refactor their stuff
> > over time.  We have a 1.1.2 release finished for commons so people can
> > use that until they want to change.
> >
> > Tomahawk might be a little more tricky but right now we're talking
> > about refactoring commons so I think I am still +1
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > On 2/17/06, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > suisse.com> wrote:
> >> Mike's arguments are valid.
> >>
> >> To make it easier for developers out there, it might make sense to
> >> exclude
> >> other changes from this minor. That would reduce the problem
> >> sources for
> >> those "outside" developers...
> >>
> >> Alexander
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:06 PM
> >>> To: MyFaces Development
> >>> Subject: Re: Refactor Commons to org.apache.myfaces.commons ?
> >>>
> >>> The benefits outweight the downsides.  Currently, there's no
> >>> guarantee
> >>> that any particular Myfaces release will support your custom
> >>> components if you have a dependency on our classes.
> >>>
> >>> Also, up to this point, if you're depending on Myfaces classes for
> >>> your custom components, it's difficult to know if you're
> >>> depending on
> >>> API, IMPL, COMMONS, or TOMAHAWK pieces.   This should make it far
> >>> clearer, and make it easier for developers in the long run.
> >>>
> >>> A separate commons release is also new enough that it shouldn't
> >>> be too
> >>> big of an issue.
> >>>
> >>> The sooner we start doing things the "right" way, the sooner people
> >>> can feel safe about using commons to build their components.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/17/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Well it's a package refactoring. So, each dependend (or using)
> >>>> class
> >>>> in impl and tomahawk must be aligned as well. I'm feeling
> >>> much warmer
> >>>> when doing this within my IDE, which has total knowledge of all
> >>>> dependencies.  ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, is everyone really aware of what I'm proposing here?
> >>>> We have an already released myfaces-commons-1.1.2 lib with
> >>> package structure
> >>>> org.apache.myfaces.*
> >>>> The next myfaces-commons-1.1.3 will have package structure
> >>>> org.apache.myfaces.commons.*
> >>>> This is not what normally should happen between minor
> >>> release changes, right?
> >>>> At least we must make prominent notice about this in commons 1.1.3
> >>>> release notes.
> >>>> Do you think there are already people out there, using
> >>> myfaces-commons
> >>>> as base for there own components? They might be angry, no?  ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Everyone really sure? Really no objections?
> >>>> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Manfred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/17/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> Just do the svn move manuall.  Its not too hard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/17/06, Arvid Hülsebus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>> It looks like he had only problems with older versions
> >>> of IDEA or the
> >>>>>> Subversion client. We can't report any problems with IDEA 5.1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Arvid
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Martin Marinschek wrote:
> >>>>>>> +1 from me. definitely.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Martin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/17/06, Arvid Hülsebus
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Normally it does, but there are some limitations. I
> >>> will ask Udo when he
> >>>>>>>> is back -- in about 30 minutes. He gained some
> >>> experience restructuring
> >>>>>>>> our repository for the donation of the Tobago source.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Arvid
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Manfred Geiler wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> pps. Use svn move to do this so we don't lose our history
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if IntelliJ does "svn move" behind
> >>> the scenes when
> >>>>>>>>> moving (refactoring) classes?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Manfred
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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