Yes, my qualm is with the 'jsp' prefix. My problem is that (even though
it would be good if we didn't) we have many automated tests that have
been written using the old ids (and they are the same ids as the RI, so
the same tests work with the RI as well).

I know the 'right' long-term solution is to make our tests
id-independent (or assign ids to everything in out JSP file). Given that
this isn't a JSF 1.2 implementation, I was hoping for a short term fix
to my problem, but it sounds like your current solution depends on the
prefix being different from the Servlet id prefix.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:51 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Re: Ids in 1.1.3 and 1.1.4
> 
> Unique Id generation aside, I think the qualm was with the 'jsp'
prefix
> in the generated IDs.  I know that JSP 2.1 has the ability to assign
ids
> unique to a tag on a page, but that's different than what you are
> describing.
> 
> Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > The problem is that there is a bug in the spec here.
> >
> > If you called createUniqueId in earlier MyFaces versions, you would
> > receive a unique id, but only unique for one request. On the next
> > request, the sequence would be restarted. This would make working
with
> > dynamic component creation exceptionally hard, if not impossible. On
> > subsequent requests, the sequence counter would'nt start anew, and
> > you'd get DuplicateIdExceptions all over!
> >
> > To fix this, we went to be more inline with what JSF1.2 foresees for
> > id creation. JSF 1.2 wants the servlet container to create unique
ids
> > - so we loose control about the ids produced, and createUniqueId is
> > never called. Note: when we all move to 1.2, you won't know about
the
> > id-syntax anymore anyways - the servlet container provides the
unique
> > ids then.
> >
> > We implemented a partial solution of this - we have a separate
counter
> > for JSP-tags; and those ids are produced out of a different
sequence.
> > To make sure that the id's don't match, we prepend a "jsp" in front
of
> > the actual unique id counter.
> >
> > With this solution, we can store the current sequence counter of
> > createUniqueId between requests, and dynamic component creation is
not
> > a problem anymore!
> >
> > I wonder why you would need the component id to have a special
syntax?
> > Do you rely in any way on this?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 7/12/06, *Gary VanMatre* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     >From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >
> >     >
> >     > Hey Howard,
> >     >
> >     > you mean stuff like ?
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >     > Was introduced in " Revision 359449"
> >     >
> >     > see
> >     > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=359449
> >     <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=359449>
> >     >
> >     > I can't tell you much about that. sorry!
> >     >
> >
> >
> >
> >     I did some research on this for Shale Clay.  Clay has to
> >     conditionally decide to use the ViewRoot to create a unique id
or
> >     use another method.  It looks like it has to do with partial
page
> >     rendering.   I suspect it was added for ajax component support.
> >
> >     That's pretty much the same answer as Matthias.
> >
> >
> >
> >     > -Matt
> >
> >     Gary
> >
> >     >
> >     > On 7/12/06, Abrams, Howard A wrote:
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > Hi,
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > Is there any reason why the UIComponentTag appends "jsp" to
all
> >     the
> >     > > component ids in 1.1.3/1.1.4? Any chance this can be removed
> >     for 1.1.4 so
> >     > > that it returns the same ids as UIViewRoot.createUniqueId()
and
> >     the RI?
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > Thanks,
> >     > >
> >     > > h
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     > Matthias Wessendorf
> >     >
> >     > further stuff:
> >     > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> >     > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> >
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