I do have 5 kegs coming for my wedding this weekend ;-)

I am checking with Ryan Lubke about getting a wiki started at 
javaserverfaces-spec-public for ideas from users/developers for JSF 2.0, I'm 
sure something would work at apache too :-)


>It's a pity that you can't be around, Jacob. Imagine all this beer.
>
>Well, maybe next year!
>
>regards,
>
>Martin
>
>On 9/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It might be worthwhile to check out some of the stuff proposed by HLS for 
>tapestry 5-- I do like the way he/others are handling bindings instead of 
>exposing them to the end developer.  The way bindings/attributes are handled 
>in JSF are by far the worst aspect of the API (maybe a close second to 
>statesaving requirements).
>>
>> Some of the other ideas he's proposing around queuing commands/events for 
>post processing on submit are pretty interesting, but I'm intrigued as to how 
>the N iteration cases will be handled and if the state size would get just as 
>bad as with JSF, where JSF forces some of these events to backing beans in 
>other scopes, not serialized.  I had discussed some similar ideas around 
>pushing a 2 phase component lifecycle (encode/decode) and queueing events for 
>processing with literal references, consolidating to only 2 tree walks.
>>
>> Also, avoiding mapping parent/child relationships within the component 
>itself might be something to look at.  This would allow us to have components 
>that exist in different lifecycles, much like EJBs, instead of forcing 
>transient relationships upon child branches.  This can be solved a couple 
>ways: either through injection like the other APIs, or via the filter pattern, 
>passing in a pointer to the children when you process a given event.
>>
>> It'd be cool if Sun started a JSF 2.0 project on Java.net to start 
>publishing ideas in wiki format to get better community input.
>>
>> -- Jacob
>>
>>
>> >Hi there,
>> >
>> >Ed Burns, Jesse Alexander and me will be heading a discussion on what
>> >our users dreamed JSF 2.0 would be like - on friday, 2006/09/29, in
>> >Munich, at the Oktoberfest.
>> >
>> >So it's a good opportunity for both talking about JSF and drinking
>> >beer - probably the best of the world. We'll meet up in:
>> >
>> >http://www.weisses-brauhaus.de/
>> >
>> >at 18:00
>> >
>> >and if you're interested in coming, reply to this mail and I'll
>> >include you in the reservation.
>> >
>> >regards,
>> >
>> >Martin
>> >
>> >--
>> >
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