On 12/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the way, is this similar to (or identical to) your idea for a preupdate() > method in Shale's ViewController (SHALE-338)? If so, I still like the idea > ... just need to see the follow through :-). :) I am on it, but got "blocked" by other *tasks*
Boy do I know *that* story :-). Looking forward to the results, whenever they happen, although we're really close to rolling 1.0.4 now, so it might have to wait for the next feature release. Stay tuned
-M
Craig
Craig > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > -M > > > > On 12/20/06, Werner Punz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Craig McClanahan schrieb: > > > > > > > > One of the architectural approaches that MyFaces developers seem to do > > > > pretty often, even when they don't have to, is think of everything as > > > > needing a component. To me, this involves the person building the > view > > > > in decisions that really belong to the person working on the business > > > > logic. Yes, it's often the same person, but where is the separation > of > > > > concerns? > > > > > > > That was indeed the concerns of the original scope tag > > > (I am using it currently btw. it is excellent work) > > > the original intent was to have a viable replacement for savestate > > > which would allow quick and dirty scoping with a > > > a visual/tag approach. > > > > > > Mario did this approach and he solved it in an excellent way > > > and yes, there is a break in separation of concerns and it was > > > intended by design to ease the development of small applications, > > > > > > you basically push the scope control and parts of the transaction > > > handling into the visual part. > > > > > > But the idea was to have a tag like way for those things, and if you > > > need it differently (which many apps do but many small ones dont) > > > have other frameworks deal with it. > > > > > > Now Mario, now he is moving into the Spring domain with his stuff, seems > > > to be covering, let other frameworks do the scope control approach, > > > as well. > > > > > > Btw. The scope tag of Mario is really excellent you should give it a > > > try, but I agree, separation of concerns is not really there and cannot > > > be by design principle, but there are other frameworks and solutions > > > to deal with this. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh > > > > further stuff: > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com > > > > -- Matthias Wessendorf http://tinyurl.com/fmywh further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
