Adam,

Our past discussion on "commons" was to provide JSF
components/validators/converters that could be used in any component
library, even if that component library is not compatible with any
other component library (ie, tobago).   I think perhaps this should be
called CommonComponents.

"Commons" as was used in this thread is not about building a component
development API.   That is a different but often-brought-up topic that
also needs a "vision".  We will want a CommonAPI to cover the area
that Adam brought up.

We should try to be clear about which we're talking about since we're
already seeing some confusion in the thread.   For example,
AddResources would probably be a part of CommonAPI rather than
CommonComponents.

Note that MyFaces also has a "shared" module where code is shared
between MyFaces Core and MyFaces Tomahawk.

On 5/3/07, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Before we do this, we have to be careful on our vision:
- Are we looking to define internal utilities shared among
  Trinidad/Tomahawk/Tobago?
- Are we looking to define public APIs shared among these
  projects?
- Are we going to have a common package name for all
  such code?

IMO, we should:
 - Have no components at all in here, at least to start,
   whether or not they render markup.
 - Use a common package name
 - Be very cautious and slow as we build this up, being *really*
   sure about the APIs we're adding.  This should be a foundational
   stone for a long time.
 - Start enforcing a public vs. private API split for real, and
   be rigorous about when we change public APIs without
   preserving backwards compatibility.

Also, I don't think build dependencies belong in here, at least
not in terms of a packaged JAR.  Whether they live in
a "commons" in terms of SVN locations is fine.

-- Adam



On 5/3/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings from the ApacheCon in Amsterdam.
>
> It was discussed a lot on the list and Bernd and I are now taking the
> time to layout a "apache-myfaces-commons-[SUBSET]-VERSION.jar" file.
>
> Commons:
> -What should go into a commons JAR?
> Non renderKit related things like
>   -Converters and Validators
>   -NonFacesRequestServlet from Tobago
>   -FacesContextFactory from Tobago to ensure a kind of common layer
> for doing uploads
>   -the selectItems component from Tomahawk
>   -what are we missing ???
>
> Build dependencies:
>   - Trinidad's plugins/utils to generate stuff like the TagClass file.
>
> The vision:
>  Why this is needed ?
> It is kind of hard to actually use only some "common" pieces of
> Tomahawk. At least to add a custom validator, the complete jar is
> needed. The vision is also to add some "common" pieces from
> Trinidad/tobago to it.
>
> For Tomahawk this will not mean, you have to introduce a new namespace
> for adding the converter/validator, the "commons-jar" can be a rt
> dependency so that the TLD file is only referencing to the classes
> w/in the commons.jar.
>
> What are you missing ?
> We will compile a list into the MyFaces wiki, based on your feedback/comments
>
> -Bernd/Matthias
>

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