I will post a mail questioning whether this code-grant can come in via
IPC or as an incubation project to the incubator list.
regards,
Martin
On 7/26/07, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> Thanks for the link. This is one of those strange cases where the
> project "could" be considered a part of MyFaces or it could be
> considered a new subproject. I think either way, this definitely
has to
> go before the incubator PMC.
>
> I did talk with Michael Freedman (the JSR-301project lead)
yesterday and
> it's looking like he's going to be handing the code over to me
sometime
> next week or early the week after as opposed to this week like I
> originally thought. Because the code was developed in-house at Oracle
> until the Apache community started expressing interest, he's just
trying
> to get stuff into a state where it could be reasonably handed off
and be
> able to be supported and enhanced by the community. Still, it looks
> like we have some footwork that needs to be done with incubator or
> whatnot but I think it would be valuable to start figuring out where
> this donation is going to go so that when we do get the code, we
can hit
> the ground running. What do you guys think? Is this something we can
> figure out before the code donation is made or do we need to have the
> code donation first?
>
> Scott
>
> Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > Here is some further information on "Intellectual Property
Clearance".
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 7/26/07, *Matthias Wessendorf* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > > this is exceptionally great news. The question is now how
we can
> > move in the
> > > code. The old question that arises now is incubator versus
code
> > grant.
> >
> > even a software grant has be to discussed on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as
> > well.
> >
> > > The question that we'll need to answer is how the community
that
> > so far has
> > > developed the code is structured.
> > >
> > > Main question: Can and will the code be further developed by
> > mostly persons
> > > who are already member of the MyFaces community, or does
> > community building
> > > have to occurr?
> > >
> > > Both Scott and me will be active in the development, we
both are
> > active in
> > > the Trinidad/MyFaces community, so this is a plus. I would
guess
> > that also
> > > Stan will be interested. So, I think that we as a community
will
> > be able to
> > > handle the code easily.
> >
> > Scott is already ASF committer, like you and Stan.
> > Also others here, not committers (yet), have provided feedback
> > regarding JSF + portlet.
> > Form that side, all is fine :)
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > > I would tend to think that in this case, a direct code grant
> > would be ok,
> > > what does everyone else think?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/25/07, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > > Dennis,
> > > >
> > > > I checked with the project lead for JSR-301 and he said
> > licensing for
> > > > the TCK is still up in the air. It is his intention to
> > publish it under
> > > > the Apache 2.0 license but I believe he is still trying to
> > work out the
> > > > logistics with Sun to make sure that Oracle can comply with
> > the JCP.
> > > >
> > > > He said that until the logistics of the TCK are worked
out, he
> > would
> > > > like to contribute some testing code to the subproject
here at
> > Apache
> > > > and would ultimately like those unit tests to drive the
> > TCK. But the
> > > > TCK is, in large part, a piece of the JCP which gauges
> > compliance of
> > > > various implementations so we need to play nicely with them.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> > > > > One more comment, the unit tests that will hopefully be
made
> > as part
> > > > > of the Maven build will be developed as part of this
project
> > and I
> > > > > have hopes they will be a lot more comprehensive then
the tests
> > > > > provided by the TCK. :) That's up to the community to
help
> > with that
> > > > > however.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> > > > >> I'll double check, but I think the TCK will be liscenced
> > using the
> > > > >> Apache 2.0, it's just that Oracle will maintain the
> > copyrights. As
> > > > >> per agreements with the JCP, the TCK can only enforce the
> > > > >> specification which is developed by the Java Community
> > EG. I know
> > > > >> Martin is on the Expert Group representing Apache and
so am I
> > > > >> (representing Trinidad and the new Rich Renderkit
we'll be
> > donating
> > > > >> soon). So the TCK can be influenced though that process.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> IMO, it's very much the same relationship that MyFaces
has
> > with the
> > > > >> JSF TCK which is developed by Sun, except that because
the
> > code
> > > > >> developed by the Apache community will be used as the
R.I., the
> > > > >> Apache community has a much better chance to influence
both
> > the TCK
> > > > >> and the future of the standard Portlet Bridge.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scott
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dennis Byrne wrote:
> > > > >>> believe the TCK will be developed in-house at Oracle,
but the
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> development of the 301 bridge itself will be done as
> > part of
> > > > >>> MyFaces
> > > > >>> community.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello Scott. Does Oracle have control of the TCK
> > licensing? If so,
> > > > >>> what are the chances of having anonymous read access to
> > the code,
> > > > >>> and a license that lets us keep this in the continuous
> > integration
> > > > >>> loop right next the unit tests. Thanks
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Scott
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Dennis Byrne
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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