Ok, yes, then - you got me right, and you know what side I'd lean to ;)

regards,

Martin

On 9/8/07, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no no. I think you are right (if i understand you correctly). By default the 
> conversation lives as long as the session which means a conversation can live 
> far longer than just e.g. 30 min.
> I'd admit I am also one of those who would like to see a default timeout 
> happening, though others wont (e.g. See shale-dialog).
> I am unsure about it..
>
> Lets fell a community decision.
>
> Mario
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Martin Marinschek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, Sep 8, 2007 1:17 am
> Subject: Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> To: Reply-    "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]>To: "MyFaces 
> Development" <[email protected]>
>
> Ok, on rereading I see I did indeed take the wording wrongly. Sorry
> >for the confusion.
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Martin
> >
> >On 9/8/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Zubin,
> >
> >> Mario specifically mentions that a setting HAS to be made - so I was
> > wondering why we want to force users to do this, if it is not
> > necessary. Might as well be that I understood his mail wrongly.
> >
> >> regards,
> >
> >> Martin
> >
> >> On 9/8/07, Zubin Wadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Martin,
> > >
> > > I think that's what is already happening. If nothing is set - the
> > > conversation dies with the session.
> > >
> > > It used to be that it was hard-wired to last 30 mins.
> > >
> > > If a specific setting is made in the config, then it supercedes the 
> > > default
> > > which = session timeout.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Zubin
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/7/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Simon,
> > > >
> > > > I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the
> > > > added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the
> > > > session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are
> > > > not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good
> > > > that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session
> > > > timeout.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > On 9/8/07, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> > > > > session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> > > > > mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> > > > > quickly than the http session.
> > > > >
> > > > > Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It 
> > > > > is
> > > > > now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> > > > > Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is 
> > > > > now
> > > > > *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that's what you were asking about..
> > > > >
> > > > > Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> > > > > website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> > > > > feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Simon
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Mario,
> > > > > >
> >
>
>


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