IMHO, a conversation should behave exactly the same as the session
does today - per default. There is nothing elementary different just
because you can have a multitude of conversations per user.

regards,

Martin

On 9/8/07, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon,
>
> >If this element is not specified,
> >the container must set its default
> >timeout
>
> I think the spec is not very helpful with this text as it does not say what 
> the "container default value" is.
>
> With respect to memory usage this is even more important for Orhestra as a 
> developer often do not even know which entities live in the persitence 
> context cache.
>
> I definitely think this "small topic" is worth discussing it - later we have 
> to argue why we felt the decision in one way or the other - we should be 
> prepared; regardless of what we decide at the end ...
>
>
> Mario
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, Sep 8, 2007 8:36 pm
> Subject: Re: [orchestra] Conversation Timeouts (was changed     scope   
> configuration)
> To: Reply-    "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]>To: MyFaces 
> Development <[email protected]>
>
> Ok, so I guess orchestra could use that same convention. This is still a
> >"magic number" that people will need to look up in the docs, though.
> >
> >I still think it is more intuitive for people to not get a conversation 
> >timeout unless they configure one. There will be absolutely no surprised 
> >developers wondering where their beans went.
> >
> >The http session really does have to be a sane default as otherwise memory 
> >usage will eventually bring down the whole webapp. But with
> >Orchestra, the conversations do eventually go away - when the session does.
> >
> >My, we have spent a lot of bandwidth on a very small point :-)
> >
> >It's nice to see people are interested in Orchestra though.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Simon
> >
> >On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 19:03 +0200, Bernhard Huemer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > according to the Servlet specification:
> >
> > ///
> > The session-timeout element defines the default
> > session timeout interval for all sessions created
> > in this web application. The specified timeout
> > must be expressed in a whole number of minutes.
> > If the timeout is 0 or less, the container ensures
> > the default behaviour of sessions is never to time
> > out. If this element is not specified, the container
> > must set its default timeout period.
> > \\\
> >
> > regards,
> > Bernhard
> >
> > On 08.09.2007 18:48, Mario Ivankovits wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >
> > >> If no timeout property is present, then no timeout applies.
> > >> Otherwise, the specified timeout applies.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You are right too with all you said.
> > > Hmmm .... No pc here yet, but, how do a servlet container behave if there 
> > > is no session timeout configured or is it a required configuration?
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Mario
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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