The impression that this chain is giving off is that if certain Trinidad users are bound by requirements to 1.0.* that they will be basically out of luck for new features and bug fixes.
Nate Perkins General Dynamics C4 Systems This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain GDC4S confidential or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ From: Blake Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:41 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [Trinidad] Create a 1.2 trunk Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Also the fact, that JSF 1.2 is the most current JSF version, would be a valid reason for making trunk become the 1.2.x version. What about supporting 1.0.x at a minimal level ? We can backport fixes to 1.1 on an as-needed basis with a good reason, but over time the bar is going to rise. -- Blake like "important" fixes make it into, but no "new feature" makes it into ? Like a "1.0.3.x " series ? WDYT ? -M I would definitely prefer that 1.2 is the main trunk sooner rather than later. We have to weigh the risk of bug fixes and features not getting merged into the 1.1 branch versus their not getting merged into the 1.2 branch. Given that the 1.2 branch will eventually be the main trunk anyway, the choice comes down to: a) Fix isn't merged into 1.2, resulting in a regression when 1.2 becomes the main trunk vs b) Fix isn't merged into 1.1. 1.1 branch works no worse than it did before the patch was applied. As a practical matter, merging and testing in both branches is a significant overhead. Most developers weren't experiencing this overhead, as Adam Winer handled most of it. -- Blake Sullivan Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On 10/24/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/24/07, Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, the 1.1 would still act as the main trunk for new features that are not 1.2 specific. It would then be a choice of each committer to patch 1.2 trunk or not (is the "or not" an option or not though -- should we require it so that the maintainers don't have to do all the svn merging?). Personally I prefer 1.1 OR 1.2 being the "main trunk". Should say "I don't prefer... " Meaning I don't care if 1.1 is main or 1.2. Both should be maintained in the same way. I am working inside a JSF 1.2 environment (like you ;-) ), My main concern is that these "trunks" have a separate live. I personally think, that the committers should "port" the patches (created or provided via contributors) to the other trunk as well. Some just can't use 1.2 or 1.1 so, would be odd if a bug is only fixed in one. Only if the feature is 1.2 specific would it be placed only on the 1.2 trunk. that's for sure. This could work like: 1) work on 1.1 and optionally port to 1.2 I think working on 1.2 and port optionally to 1.1 doesn't make a difference. Just the other way around. 2) apply 1.2 changes only to 1.2 +1 3) on release, branch 1.1 and 1.2 at the same time and provide same releases at same time: 1.0.4 && 1.2.4 1.0.5 && 1.2.5 ... 4) apply 1.1 changes from the 1.1 branch (merge) to 1.2? (unless we require committers to maintain their change on both trunks) I'd love to see this "restriction" :) opinions? On 10/24/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like the idea of have two trunks. My only concern is that, these two live different lifes :) I can see that some only maintain 1.2x and some only 1.0x Perhaps setting a "committer" rule, to port patch to other branch, WHEN ! these patches aren't specific to a particular version (like JSF 1.2 - API) wdyt ? On 10/24/07, Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has been brought up in the past (1.2 trunk), but it is again a hot topic here at oracle for applying trinidad patches. Currently we have in SVN: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/trunk/trinidad https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/branches/1.2.x-branch The problem with this structure is that there is a window between a trunk release and a branch release where there is no place for development on the 1.2 branch. Take now for example: 1.0.3 (Released) 1.0.4-SNAPSHOT (Trunk - dev) 1.2.3-SNAPSHOT (branch - pre-release) There is no 1.2.4 area for people that are making 1.0.4 changes to apply to the 1.2 branch. Would ppl. be in support of an SVN re-architecture for the following general structure? https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/trunk/jsf-1.1/ (snapshot version) https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/trunk/jsf-1.2/ (snapshot version) https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/branches/jsf-1.1/1.0.4 (created for pre-release) https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/branches/jsf-1.2/1.2.4 (created for pre-release) The build/api/impl folders could be directly below these folders. Example: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/trinidad/trunk/jsf-1.2/trinidad -build Opinions? -Andrew -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
