Hi guys,

but the sub-flow feature is missing... If we'd have that (eventually
in native JSF-configuration style, one subflow in a different file)
Orchestra would be feature complete.

@Seam: have you seen the public early release draft of web-beans? Seam
is not going to look like Seam when this is finished... outjection is
gone, replaced by Spring-style proxy-handling without configuration
(outjection was definitely one of the central features of Seam, this
will also mean the programming model can change to something more
classic...)

regards,

Martin

On Nov 9, 2007 10:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From my perspective, I'd use Orchestra because it is really
> lightweight, in usage.
> Configuration is done once, and easy to re-use the orchestra specific cfg.
>
> the nav-flow w/ Orchestra is plain JSF, that is a plus.
>
> -M
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2007 9:34 AM, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > > I've just heard that Spring-Webflow will add JPA-support in the next
> > > release. We should dress warmer here ;)
> > >
> > Yes, I already know that. Well, competition is always good ;-)
> >
> > I see:
> >
> > 1) JBoss Seam, which might be very feature-full but which is also very
> > intrusive to your application and requires you to use a new programming
> > model.
> > BTW: I think Seam should be split into various modules, for example, the
> > ability to being able to have function calls with method parameters in
> > Facelets would be great to be usable without seam.
> > 2) Web-Beans: ditto
> > 3) Spring-Webflow, which might be a little less intrusive, but requires
> > you to use a configuration to describe the webflow, doesn't it?
> > 4) Orchestra, which is a very thin layer and nicely integrates into your
> > application, even a complex legacy one. The automatic conversation
> > starting with the ability to have some in parallel makes it VERY easy to
> > use.
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>



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