>  > we already have a very raw starting point in the current commons,
>  >  not yet finished, but it's there ;-)
>
>  The started commons-(converters|validators) are IMHO a other type of commons,
>  not for use in jsf-impl classes but for application developper. This
>  is for nice and convenient utils stuff .

didn't scott commit something? But even when not, some utils should be
placed in commons.

-M

>
>
>
>
>  >
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  > I think that if we find a good name and define some strict rules we
>  >  >  > could move most (or all?) stuff from myfaces-shared to this lib. And
>  >  >  > perhaps even get rid of shard in the long run!
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  One rule can be to allow only stuff which itself directly implements a
>  >  >  JSF API but do not provide any functionality on its own, you see, no
>  >  >  enum converter or soo. Probably only abstract classes?
>  >  >
>  >  >  > Of course, some well-known issues pop up immediately: which JSF-Spec 
> -
>  >  >  > 1.1 and 1.2 or only 1.2? What about JSF 2.0?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  I'd like to see one project per version, e.g. myfaces-base11,
>  >  >  myfaces-base12, myfaces-base20 (with namespaced package names:
>  >  >  org.apache.myfaces.base11, etc)
>  >
>  >
>  > yeah, base11, base12, base20
>  >  what about a base, for those things that are independent from
>  >  the spec diffs ?
>  >
>  >
>  >  >  FacesContextWrapper. But there is no need for that, we can't forsee any
>  >  >  future change e.g. in JSF 2.0
>  >
>  >
>  > :-) True, all this is discussed behind closed doors
>  >
>  >  -M
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Ciao,
>  >  >  Mario
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Matthias Wessendorf
>  >
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>  >
>
>
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>     Volker
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