On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Zubin Wadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon,
>
> You can do a search for Subject = '[OT] JSF 2.0' on the Dev list.
>
> I believe that discussion, begun by MW turned into a discussion about branch
> creation... then a couple of +1s followed.... and I assume that's where the
> branch was born.

correct.
Also, it has happened quite some times that some code was "just"
committed (or close to be)
-Orchestra (aka Fusion)
-Dojo-extensions, from Werner (are they already in?)

If you feel uncomfortable, please do a revert.

-Matthias

>
> Cheers,
>
> Zubin.
>
> On 8/28/08, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I see from the commit list that a new JSF2.0 branch has been created.
>>
>> I don't remember seeing *any* kind of discussion or even announcement
>> about this. While I am happy to see JSF2.0 work going on, this kind of
>> approach does not seem to be at all in the "community" spirit. IMO, major
>> events like this should be discussed beforehand.
>>
>> One issue, for example, is that the core-1.2 stuff is currently
>> half-way-converted from the trinidad plugins to the myfaces-builder-plugin.
>> So now it is branched, any changes need to be applied in two places.
>>
>> In addition, a large amount of code has just been committed by someone
>> (slessard) who is not a particularly regular contributor to myfaces. Where
>> did this code come from? Do we need a code grant for it? Note that when code
>> is developed iteratively on the dev list then there is no need for a grant.
>> But a sudden code dump is different, even when contributed by someone who
>> has signed a CLA.
>>
>> And with 3 branches to now maintain, we need to discuss whether and when
>> we phase out maintenance of the jsf-1.1 branch. Currently when users provide
>> patches in jira, they almost always provide a patch against only one version
>> and the committer ports it, which does increase the load on existing
>> committers. When do we stop asking committers to do this when patching bugs?
>>
>> To repeat, I'm *happy* that jsf2.0 implementation is in progress, and
>> appreciate people contributing time to write an ASF-2.0-licensed
>> implementation. But it is a  standard saying at Apache that "community is
>> more important than code", and the "community" aspect here seems to have
>> been rather neglected...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon
>>
>
>



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