I agree, it should have been more abstract to start with, and not depend on JSF for conversation scope either. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that it should have been JSF extending 299 with conversation scope through WebBeans custom scope feature and it should have been the same for EJB 3. Currently it seems to me that the dependency links with JSR-299 are all in the opposite direction that they should have been.
~ Simon On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Simon Lessard <[email protected]>wrote: > That's true, but I think most JSR-299 impl can run outside JEE environment > already. Many specs started in EE and ended in SE 1 or 2 version of the SDK > later. > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]>wrote: > >> the big failure of the JSR 299 is that it just lives in JavaEE land. >> >> Best would have been to introduce a flexible DI API in SE land. >> This could be extended in all the different profiles. So, 299 could >> have just been a *consumer* of that flexible DI in order to extend >> it and add the things that are needed for EJB and all the other EE things. >> >> just my $0.02 >> >> -M >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Simon Lessard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Weird, it certainly overlaps BIG time, most of what their spec seem to >> have >> > is already in JSR-299 too... Maybe I'm missing something... >> > >> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> FYI >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:34 PM >> >> Subject: FYI: javax.inject* standard ... >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Cc: Pete Muir <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> FYI: >> >> http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009/05/javaxinjectinject.html >> >> >> >> what does this mean to JSR 299 ? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >
