@fixed juel: great!

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gerhard

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2010/10/28 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>

> Hi,
> > hi martin,
> >
> >
> > it would be nice to get more details about the juel issues.
>
> Christian fixed them promptly in JUEL's svn:
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3095122&group_id=165179&atid=834616
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3031783&group_id=165179&atid=834616
>
>
> Back to original topic: JUEL caches the ExpressionFactory instance and
> thus does not have discussed performance problem.
>
>
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/10/19 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>
> >         Hi,
> >
> >         some news about EL method invocations:
> >
> >         1)  Geronimo EL API implementation has this problem too:
> >         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-5657
> >
> >         2) UEL bug is still open:
> >         https://uel.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=19
> >
> >
> >         3) JUEL doesn't not work for my test cases, for example it
> >         doesn't find
> >         some public methods so I cannot say if JUEL has this problem
> >         now.
> >
> >
> >         My today's recommedation (which can change tommorow) is: if
> >         you want EL
> >         method invocations without file asscess within
> >         (without /META-INF/services reading):
> >
> >         A) apply GERONIMO-5657 patch to
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/specs/trunk/geronimo-el_2.2_spec/and 
> build this EL-API
> >
> >         B) use impl part from uel.dev.java.net as EL-impl or tomcat's
> >         EL impl
> >
> >
> >         Please note that uel.dev.java.net API suffers from classic
> >         leaking
> >         classloader problem too - it uses Class instance as key in
> >         static Map :
> >         see MYFACES-2942 for details. Maybe we should put a warning
> >         about these
> >         two issues at http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/HowToEnableEl22 ?
> >
> >
> >         Regards,
> >
> >         Kocicak
> >
> >         Martin Koci píše v St 25. 08. 2010 v 20:52 +0200:
> >
> >         > Hi,
> >         >
> >         > I'll try it but not today :) Optimization is my priority
> >         task for next
> >         > few months and certainly I'll compare all four (or more?) EL
> >         > implementations.
> >         >
> >         > Mark Struberg píše v St 25. 08. 2010 v 17:52 +0000:
> >         > > Martin, could you please give juel a quick try? Would be
> >         interested if if also
> >         > > suffers from this problem.
> >         > >
> >         > > You can find a slightly tweaked (bugfixed) version of it
> >         on my github page
> >         > >
> >         > > http://github.com/struberg/juel
> >         > >
> >         > > The original is on juel.sourceforge.net
> >         > >
> >         > > LieGrue,
> >         > > strub
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > >From: Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>
> >         > > >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >         > > >Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 5:10:09 PM
> >         > > >Subject: Re: EL method invocation performance
> >         > > >
> >         > > >Hi,
> >         > > >
> >         > > >Does this really have to happen at every method
> >         invocation or is this an
> >         > > >implementation problem?
> >         > > >
> >         > > >If it is an implementation problem and can be circumvent
> >         in any way, I would
> >         > > >contact the Glassfish and Tomcat developers about this ;)
> >         > > >
> >         > > >Regards,
> >         > > >Jakob
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > >2010/8/25 Ivan <xhh...@gmail.com>
> >         > > >
> >         > > >How about trying the el api published by Geronimo ? it
> >         caches the
> >         > > >ExpressionFactory to avoid the search action by default.
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>2010/8/25 Martin Koci <martin.k...@aura.cz>
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>Hi,
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>this problem is not in myfaces but affects performance
> >         especially in
> >         > > >>>render response phase:
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>EL 2.2 introduces method invocation but if you try use
> >         it like
> >         > > >>>rendered="#{bean.getRendered(param)}" there is an
> >         unpleasant surprise:
> >         > > >>>both implementations of BeanELResolver (Glassfish,
> >         Tomcat) use this
> >         > > >>>construction during method invocation:
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>ExpressionFactory exprFactory =
> >         ExpressionFactory.newInstance();
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>That newInstance() always involves FactoryFinder
> >         mechanism, callstack
> >         > > >>>then looks like :
> >         > > >>>
> >         > >
> >
> >>>org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.findResourceInternal
> >         > > >>>
> >         org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.findResource
> >         > > >>>
> >         org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.getResourceAsStream
> >         > > >>>  javax.el.FactoryFinder.find(String, String,
> >         Properties)
> >         > > >>>   javax.el.ExpressionFactory.newInstance(Properties)
> >         > > >>>    javax.el.ExpressionFactory.newInstance()
> >         > > >>>     javax.el.BeanELResolver.invokeMethod(Method,
> >         Object, Object[])
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>Always tries to locale factory implementation, that
> >         > > >>>means /META-INF/services reading! This is not problem
> >         in myfaces, but
> >         > > >>>users don't distinguish between JSF and EL well.
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>Any ideas?
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>Regards,
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>Martin Kočí
> >         > > >>>
> >         > >
> >         >>>
> https://uel.dev.java.net/svn/uel/trunk/api/src/main/java/javax/el/BeanELResolver.java
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>
> >         > >
> >         >>>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/trunk/java/javax/el/BeanELResolver.java
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>>
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >>--
> >         > > >>Ivan
> >         > > >>
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > >--
> >         > > >Jakob Korherr
> >         > > >
> >         > > >blog: http://www.jakobk.com
> >         > > >twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
> >         > > >work: http://www.irian.at
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