Hi all, Thanks for the reviews so far. Although next weekend is going to be busy for my, I hope to find some time to continue the work on the text. As noted before, the text is based on my book, so I had to ask the publisher permission for this re-use. Last week I got an official answer from them, as quoted below.
Best regards, Bart Kummel Hi Bart, Apologies for the late reply. You can re-use some text from my book as long as it leads to a good promotion for your book and thus, increases the sales of your book. Thanks, Richard Richard Dias *Marketing Research Executive* | Packt Publishing | www.PacktPub.com <http://www.packtpub.com/>*MSN:* [email protected] On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 14:07, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote: > great intro +1 > > regards, > gerhard > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> > >> Hi, >> >> >So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add >> some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis. >> >> Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one >> likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in >> MyFaces).. >> >> Regards, >> Jakob >> >> 2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <[email protected]>: >> > Hey, >> > >> > I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table >> gives a >> > nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable. >> > >> > There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't >> > think that's a big issue... >> > >> > So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always >> add >> > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jan-Kees >> > >> > >> > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> >> > >> >> Hi Bart, >> >> >> >> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I >> >> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview >> >> table. Great work :) >> >> >> >> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more >> >> detail in the next days. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Jakob >> >> >> >> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <[email protected]>: >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > >> >> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue >> >> > adding >> >> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really >> appreciate >> >> to >> >> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for >> >> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear >> if >> >> this >> >> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or >> >> > too >> >> > much details perhaps? Please let me know! >> >> > >> >> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to >> >> > continue the documentation work after I return. >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > Bart Kummel >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> >> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to >> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below >> that. >> >> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please >> let >> >> >> me >> >> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to >> correct >> >> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the >> weeks >> >> >> to >> >> >> come. >> >> >> >> >> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache >> >> secretary. >> >> >> I got a confirmation that it was received. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Bart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss >> this >> >> with >> >> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Best regards, >> >> >>> Bart >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> regards, >> >> >>>> gerhard >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Hi! >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could >> help >> >> us >> >> >>>>> with pimping our documentation! >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> For the legal question: >> >> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts: >> >> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a >> CLA >> >> >>>>> [1] >> >> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed >> >> >>>>> for >> >> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned >> iCLA >> >> to >> >> >>>>> [email protected] and that's all from the ASF side. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. >> >> >>>>> Please >> >> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal >> >> because >> >> >>>>> they >> >> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make >> >> >>>>> sure. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the >> >> >>>>> contribution >> >> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can >> also >> >> add >> >> >>>>> a >> >> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are >> >> taken >> >> >>>>> from >> >> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web >> Application >> >> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express >> the >> >> >>>>> grant >> >> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though... >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok >> from >> >> an >> >> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with >> legal >> >> >>>>> or >> >> >>>>> board >> >> >>>>> to be sure? >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> LieGrue, >> >> >>>>> strub >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information >> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source >> >> >>>>> projects.however, >> >> >>>>> we >> >> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant >> >> >>>>> license >> >> >>>>> to ASF >> >> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would >> be >> >> >>>>> a >> >> >>>>> good >> >> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text). >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial >> brainstorming! >> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Hi all, >> >> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on >> the >> >> >>>>> wiki >> >> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my >> book, >> >> >>>>> which >> >> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven >> >> >>>>> projects. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Best regards,Bart >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard < >> [email protected]> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming. >> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> thx for the hint mark! >> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> +1 for better community doku >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few >> >> >>>>> projects >> >> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the >> CMS >> >> >>>>> (tool >> >> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we >> put >> >> >>>>> effort >> >> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> LieGrue, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> strub >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> [2] >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> hi @ all, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information >> >> >>>>> about >> >> >>>>> our community. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces >> >> Project" >> >> >>>>> section. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should >> also >> >> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should >> >> >>>>> start/continue >> >> >>>>> with our new wiki [1]. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> regards, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> gerhard >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> >>>>> Bart Kummel >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> >>> *Bart Kummel* >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> >> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> >> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> >> *Bart Kummel* >> >> >> >> >> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> >> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> >> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> >> > *Bart Kummel* >> >> > >> >> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> >> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> >> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jakob Korherr >> >> >> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com >> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr >> >> work: http://www.irian.at >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Jakob Korherr >> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr >> work: http://www.irian.at >> > > -- ___________________________________________________________ *Bart Kummel* Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
