Hi,

Can you show me a project that uses common-utils20? I couldn't find any.

I will try to figure out usage of some functionality. For example why
constants in
http://myfaces.apache.org/commons20/myfaces-commons-utils20/apidocs/org/apache/myfaces/commons/util/renderkit/HTML.html
are
not static and etc.

Thanks,
Ali

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Ali Ok <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> From this point of view, instead create a shared html5 module, we should
>> check which code is used by its renderers and create the files necessary on
>> myfaces-commons-utils that provides those utility methods. Note it is not a
>> "copy" of shared, some methods could have changes in its signature or could
>> be located in other classes.
>
> You're totally right.
>
>
>> I know there are one or two renderers that extends from the base one, but
>> I think in this case that code should be copied to html5 codebase.
>
>  There were many more in the past extending base ones, and I haven't
> checked that our recently.
>
> @Leo, thanks for your analysis. I will get rid of the dependency to
> myfaces-shared.
>
> Greetings,
> Ali
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Leonardo Uribe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> The latest code committed on shared branch indicates the objective is
>> add a submodule of shared project, just like shared-tomahawk and
>> shared-orchestra.
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/shared/trunk/shared-html5/
>>
>> From a theorical point of view, html5 project should not use a shared
>> submodule. The reason is there is not an strong reason why use it.
>> Below there is the list of the projects using shared and the reasons
>> why do that.
>>
>> - Tomahawk requires a shared module because it has components that
>> extends from the base components and it extends the base renderers.
>> - Portlet-brigde requires reuse some classes related with view handling.
>> - Orchestra really does not requires shared, because currently it only
>> uses some utility code that deals with classes and a base class for
>> tag classes. In the future, orchestra will use myfaces-commons-utils
>> instead shared.
>> - The code available on html5 project uses some utility methods for
>> rendering code.
>>
>> Myfaces commons utils is a project on myfaces with the intention of
>> provide a common place where utility methods used in JSF related
>> libraries. In few words, it is a long term "replacement of shared".
>> The idea is move with care the utility methods used on shared and
>> build a stable API. Later, projects like myfaces orchestra, myfaces
>> html5 and others could take advantage and use that code, just adding
>> it as a compile dependency.
>>
>> The current javadoc of myfaces-commons-utils is here:
>>
>>
>> http://myfaces.apache.org/commons20/myfaces-commons-utils20/apidocs/index.html
>>
>> From this point of view, instead create a shared html5 module, we
>> should check which code is used by its renderers and create the files
>> necessary on myfaces-commons-utils that provides those utility
>> methods. Note it is not a "copy" of shared, some methods could have
>> changes in its signature or could be located in other classes. I know
>> there are one or two renderers that extends from the base one, but I
>> think in this case that code should be copied to html5 codebase.
>>
>> I would like to do this before any release of html5, but note this is
>> not a blocker issue. In one way or another, you'll need to do two
>> release procedures (shared and html5 or commons for jsf 2.0 and
>> html5).
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Leonardo Uribe
>>
>> 2011/3/20 Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>:
>> > AFAIK, tomahawk is the only project that does it that way.
>> >
>> > I suppose my question is this.  Is html5 going to use every release of
>> > shared or will it only uptake a release when it needs to?  If the
>> > later, then all it really does is take up extra space in svn.
>> >
>> > On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Jakob Korherr <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi scott, ali.
>> >>
>> >> As ali mentioned, it was my idea to put the shared html5 module into
>> >> the shared project. And this is the way it should be IMO. Look at
>> >> shared_impl and shared_tomahawk for example.
>> >>
>> >> Also: there is no need to split up the shared and the html5 release.
>> >> They can be done together. For reference: look how Leonardo did the
>> >> last MyFaces core releases in the wiki.
>> >>
>> >> If you want, Ali, I can help you with the release next week!
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jakob
>> >>
>> >> Am Sonntag, 20. März 2011 schrieb Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>:
>> >>> I'll see if I can't cough up an example later tonight.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> No, your not getting me.  MyFaces-shared-orchestra does not exist in
>> MyFaces shared, it exists in Orchestra..  That's where I got the process I
>> used in early releases of the 3.0 bridge and Matthias used in Trinidad.  The
>> difference is that for these other modules, he shared is build during
>> PROJECT building/release whereas with tomahawk, it is done during the shared
>> release.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> (ie. You will never see a "shared-bridge" in the shared package.  It
>> exists only in the portlet Bridge's impl package.)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ali Ok <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ali, I think I'd suggest actually doing this like Trinidad, Orchestra,
>> and the Portlet Bridge do this in that they actually download the main
>> "shared" and instrument to code when THIER impl builds.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Yep, that is what "myfaces-shared-html5" build is doing, just like
>> "myfaces-shared-impl", "myfaces-shared-tomahawk" and
>> "myfaces-shared-orchestra" (of branch 2.0.x). They are also submodules of
>> "myfaces-shared", and they are released with it.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If that's not acceptable, you can simply install your new shared
>> project under trunk and use that.First, it was like that: the
>> "myfaces-shared-html5" was a submodule of Html5 project. However, as Jakob
>> suggested in another thread, that project is better to be a submodule of
>> myfaces-shared, just like others.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I think myfaces-shared (in fact, in this case only the submodule
>> myfaces-shared-html5) release is necessary, since the submodule
>> myfaces-shared-html5 is a dependency of Html5 project and it is not released
>> yet.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,Ali
>> >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Ali, I think I'd suggest actually doing this like Trinidad, Orchestra,
>> and the Portlet Bridge do this in that they actually download the main
>> "shared" and instrument to code when THIER impl builds.  That way you don't
>> have to release "shared".
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If that's not acceptable, you can simply install your new shared
>> project under trunk and use that.  I would wait until HTML5 is ready for a
>> release before releasing the shared project.
>> >>> Scott
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Ali Ok <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>> Can someone experienced help me with releasing the first alpha of the
>> project?
>> >>>
>> >>> Code is at  <http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/html5/> <
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/html5/>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/html5/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Project uses a new "myfaces-shared" project :
>> "myfaces-shared-html5"[0]. Since myfaces-shared version which I moved
>> myfaces-shared-html5 (4.0.6) is not released, first it needs to be released.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thus, for building the project, I needed to install
>> myfaces-shared-html5 on my local repository.
>> >>> May be we should discuss the further process of the release of Html5
>> project, after discussing/doing the new release of myfa
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jakob Korherr
>> >>
>> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>> >> work: http://www.irian.at
>> >
>>
>
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