As an independent observer, I recommend moving the discussion to the
mailing list.
It's not going to kill discussion -- it's going to widen the audience
so that more people can be involved.
And yes, there is a difference between the jira and the dev list --
people have to create a JIRA id and go through the web interface to
comment as well as subscribe to jira changes or actively poll the jira
issue, whereas most people can participate in the mailing list by
simply hitting reply :)

I think there's some good issues presented by both sides.   I know the
pain of trying to guess the right logger, but I also understand the
maintenance issue -- without constant good documentation of these
loggers, they become even harder to guess.   But I think there's a
maintenance issue in both cases, and I suspect that logical logger
names will work out better in the long run.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Bernd Bohmann (JIRA)
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> Bernd Bohmann commented on MYFACES-3235:
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>
> Why you are killing this discussion? As long the discussion is public there 
> is no difference between jira and dev list. I don't think a revert is 
> helpful. Looking at the code is easier for reaching an agreement.
> I'm a little bit angry about to call for a vote after 2 days discussion.
>
>> Create infrastructure for improved logging
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>>                 Key: MYFACES-3235
>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-3235
>>             Project: MyFaces Core
>>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>>          Components: General
>>            Reporter: Martin Kočí
>>            Assignee: Martin Kočí
>>            Priority: Minor
>>         Attachments: MYFACES-3235.patch
>>
>>
>> Create classes like MyfacesLogger, MyfacesLogRecord etc. like Trinidad has.
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