It looks like HFXO needs to be enabled generally for LoRa to work.  HFINT
has frequency tolerance typically <±1.5% (max <±6%) which are unacceptable
for timing receive windows, as we've seen in our experiments.  Whereas HFXO
is required to have tolerance <±60ppm.

I'd love to know what else needs to be set correctly for LoRa and BLE to
work together!  We've spent a lot of time already figuring out this timing
issue.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:38 PM, will sanfilippo <[email protected]> wrote:

> LORA and BLE definitely needs some work. There are some other things that
> need to be set correctly for this to work as well so it is not just the
> settle time. We have just started with the lora support and I suspect there
> will be a fair amount of changes to that code, especially getting both to
> work nicely together. I still have not fully figured out what changes I
> would want to make (to either stack) so that they coexisted nicely together.
>
> When you say lora depends on having HFXO enabled, are you referring to the
> current implementation or making a more general statement? I do realize
> that the current implementation uses the HFXO but I am not aware of any
> particular reason that it would be required (assuming code changes were
> made).
>
> Will
>
> > On Sep 25, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Gordon Klaus <gordon.klaus@telenordigital.
> com> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that NimBLE does not play well with some others.  In particular,
> > when BLE_XTAL_SETTLE_TIME is non-zero, NimBLE turns off and on HFXO (the
> > nRF52 64 MHz crystal oscillator) as it sees fit.  But LoRa depends on
> > having HFXO enabled.
> >
> > We see many failed LoRa join attempts as a result of the poor accuracy of
> > HFINT (the internal oscillator).  Setting BLE_XTAL_SETTLE_TIME to zero
> > fixes the problem because it disables this HFCLK source toggling, but
> then
> > we lose the power savings of disabling HFXO.
> >
> > At the very least, this workaround should be documented.  I can submit a
> PR.
> >
> > I guess there should be some management of this shared resource, so that
> it
> > is enabled while at least one client needs it.
> >
> > And maybe LoRa should also toggle HFXO, for power savings?
>
>

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