Hello all, (I'm cutting all the good points below)
First I would like to thank all of you for the quality and the
importance of this discussion. I will try to express my views. Some of
them are a bit pessimistic but they're only shown in that way in order
to clear up any misunderstandings.

The present topic is one that has been discussed for years inside NL
projects. While the need of getting more input from non-english speaking
contributors (thus leading to a more effective bug tracking and hunting)
is obvious, the way to take this input and integrate it into our QA
process is not that obvious. The proposal made by Tora is so far the
most elaborate proposal in this direction, but it is not the first. I
think that his plan can work, but we have to keep in mind three problems
that won't be solved by the proposal:
- instigating QA reporters in english for each NL project (coordinating
the issues filed by local reporters) is a good idea but please do not
forget that no NL project is created equal. Some are struggling to get
the next milestone translated, others are writing marketing plans. So do
not expect to have all the NL projects implement this proposal, far from
that.
-While I'm sure that this proposal will help a lot, it won't help in the
following cases: 1° a local reporter doesn't know what his problem is
(do not mix language barrier and lack of skills!!!) 2° A patch can be
worked on for one specific issue but for roadmap and milestones
problems, Hamburg won't integrate it.
-While we implement that plan, there will always be other people who
master english more or less well but who will file issues in IZ.  Some
of these issues may be very important, some of them will not, and the
reporter won't know that his/her language is represented through a NL
project, and won't know the QA reporter. My point here is that we should
not overly "systemize" everything to the point that the process is
there, rigid, and nobody can get beside it. This is Free Software after
all and if someone feels he/she can file an issue, just let him/her do.

Otherwise, I support the proposal.
Thank you again,
Charles.


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