Alexandro,
Le 26/02/10 11:51, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you saying I can't patch things myself? That is a ridiculous >>> statement for a FLOSS project. >> >> >> No I'm not saying this at all. You are free to patch pretty much >> everything in Free and Open Source Software. In fact you're even free to >> patch the Linux kernel, but it does not mean that 1) your patch will be >> accepted 2) the patch will be integrated as fast as you want if it is >> accepted. > > Seems to me my patch got accepted just fine, release guys got no > problem taking my builds. And obviously they knew they would run out of time to integrate it before the release. It was RC 5 remember. So far, all this does look like if you could only submit your patch at RC 5 level, perhaps the ES QA process is somewhat suboptimal. > > >> What we have here now is rigorously identical. You released a patch >> somewhere around the RC 5 (RC 5, again, not beta nor RC 1) and then you >> are surprised when you're being told your patch came in too late and >> that it will be included in the next micro-release (2.3.1). But that is >> not enough for you so you decide to switch builds. > > Well I was a bit surprised specially because they ask us to gsicheck > it which send the signal that they will integrate it asap. Perhaps this calls for a clarification of the process of patch integration, especially the l10n related ones. It would probably be helpful, what do you think? > >> So in short, it's not about freedom: it's about following a community >> process. Not following such a process is ridiculous for a FLOSS project. > > As far as I know the process wasn't really affected, there was a QA, > there was a release build, and it was patched and then released with > no major question asked. That's an interesting way to formulate it: if you were fine with whatever the release team did then why do we find ourselves in a situation where builds got switched? > The only issue here is somewhat amusing since > you are not in QA, nor release nor l10n. So what exactly is your > business here? I am in QA, and I'm in l10n, because that's my role: NLC is QA + l0n + documentation + marketing + users support. I am supposed to stand, just like you and every other native-lang lead, at the crossroads of each of these efforts. This becomes particularly acute when I receive complaints on one specific localization. In this case it turns out it was the ES one. Charles. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org