Well, soon enough we’ll be able to stop guessing and move on to our own
solution at Apache — and on these points on the Oracle side I know as
little as anyone else.

Gj

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 16:25, Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote:

> Uff, I didn't mean NetBeans is low priority. Just the few virtual
> machines that Oracle still hosts seem to be low priority.
>
> (Because otherwise I would expect some uptime monitoring. hg was down
> a while back, plugins yesterday. Somebody should be already working on
> it by the time user emails start coming it. There's also no public
> status page. Not saying this to criticise, but I imagine that big
> companies selling Cloud stuff roll out this kind of telemetry
> everywhere.)
>
> --emi
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 4:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, it's just not true that NetBeans is low priority, it's used all
> over
> > Oracle. Anyway, tired of continually making that point -- the key point
> in
> > matters like this is that it's hard to track down who is responsible for
> > what at any given moment, and where they are, and so on. It would be
> great
> > to have a plugin portal that reads off Maven Central co-ordinates and
> > that's something we're working on in Oracle and will be making available
> to
> > Apache when it's in a stable state -- it would be great to have
> > instructions for anyone wanting to publish their NBMs on Maven Central,
> > since that's where the NBMs will be found by the new plugin portal.
> Anyone
> > willing to put those instructions together would be doing a great thing,
> I
> > don't know much about Maven Central and would be doing this otherwise.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 3:48 PM Emilian Bold <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Apache Infra is also quite 'small' both in number of people and
> > > computing resources.
> > >
> > > I expect that the NetBeans stuff is quite low priority at Oracle. Any
> > > priority server should have triggered various notifications about
> > > being down.
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 4:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is a key reason why those of us working in Oracle on NetBeans
> are
> > > > happy about the transition to Apache -- in Apache everything is
> > > transparent
> > > > (or should be) and the lines between people are clear. I.e., there's
> an
> > > > Apache Infra organization that is stable and reliable etc. In large
> > > > enterprises like Oracle, everything is different: when something
> "goes
> > > > down" somewhere, there could be dozens of different reasons and the
> > > > person/persons responsible could be anyone from the newest intern to
> > > Larry
> > > > Ellison himself.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 2:40 PM Eric Bresie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just curious...
> > > > >
> > > > > I seem to recall something like this happened previously but...why
> was
> > > it
> > > > > down and/or what was done to resolve it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > On July 13, 2019 at 5:49:13 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > It's back now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 3:24 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, thanks, notified those that need to be notified.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 14:46, Emilian Bold <
> [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/plugins/11.1/catalog.xml.gz
> does
> > > not
> > > > > > > > work for me. Server drops the connection.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --emi
> > > > > > > >
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