> > I didn't mean to involve you too much with this, just curious if my > > patch made sense. I certainly don't want to split the efforts under > > NetBeans. > > I think that was meant that you doing it separately is splitting the > effort! Ideally something to solve here.
I don't see what I'm doing as splitting the effort. If anything it's complementary. Can NetBeans bundle a JDK? Can it bundle nbjavac? Some of the other features could also be in NetBeans, but I didn't manage to put them in last time when I was a committer and PMC member. Maybe someday they will be reimplemented by the right person and I can drop my variant. > > It would be great if there was a single flag in the canonical build > > that would include nb-javac but it doesn't seem obvious to me how... > > Especially considering the current nb/updatecenters/extra config. > > I wonder if the old extra cluster mechanism, as JavaFX is (was?) > doing, is easier in this respect? Some of this was discussed in > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1560 if you haven't read that? I guess? But not by much. The current patch is just fine I think and I have everything in java/libs.javacimpl / ~-api. > > I recently asked if Apache is fine with me producing a NetBeans > > installer that is only the NetBeans release + a bundled JDK. The PMC > > Chair reply was that Apache most certainly does *not* allow such a > > thing and that the project would have to be rebranded. So, for this > > reason alone a distribution is still needed. > > Really?! IMO that's something we've said multiple times we would > allow, including in a recent thread (when Debian, etc. came up). Like many other threads, the most recent one got into many areas but I'm not sure I saw a clear cut conclusion. I expressly asked about the installer then went into CoolBeans and Debian and more and come back head spinning. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4075e5bc05d4d5f4eb51ced4e99dfb03847d16b337259bce593a38d4@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E The one conclusion was that NetBeans has no specific stance besides what ASF has. Looking at stuff like http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#products they are clear that I cannot use the Apache marks. Apache seems to officially not allow their marks being used but in practice allow it (for Linux distros, etc). So, it would be nice to see this black on white. Jan's link http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/downstream.html with a more recent draft seems a step in the right direction. Hopefully it stops being a draft and actual ASF policy. --emi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
