If people outside Oracle would do this, that would be best and simplest (any process or decision in Oracle takes time).
Gj On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Lars Bruun-Hansen <lbruunhan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Matthias > > Sure. When suggesting to "salvage" the Maven artifacts from > bits.netbeans.org/maven2 I made it clear that the hosting couldn't be > affiliated with the ASF. But that doesn't prevent a community member > doing it on his own or some other organization doing it. > > The old license [1] doesn't prevent redistribution, afaik. So I think > it would be perfectly legal to take a copy of those Maven artifacts > and host them somewhere else, while retaining the existing license. > > Am I wrong? Let me know if I read the license correctly. > > Also, before I start doing any such thing on my own it would be nice > to know if Oracle is contemplating the same, i.e. to make a copy into > e.g. GitHub, before they decommission all their old NetBeans Nexus > infra. It would save me - or some other volunteer - the work. > > Thx > > Lars > > [1] https://netbeans.org/cddl-gplv2.html > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:55 PM Matthias Bläsing > <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote: > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > I don't see a reasonable way to do what you describe. The code is > > GPLv2+CDDL (to my knowledge), the content of the repositories owned by > > Oracle. Only the donation files can be relicensed to ALv2 and thus are > > eligable for integration/redistribution. > > > > The message from the ASF to my understand is pretty clear: We will > > _not_ distribute GPL (regardless of the classpath exception). > > > > Greetings > > > > Matthias > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 15.01.2020, 07:34 +0100 schrieb Lars Bruun-Hansen: > > > As the suggestion is phrased, "turn off netbeans.org", I cannot > > > support it. > > > > > > It has to be clearer. Will that TLD cease to exist? Or what exactly > > > do > > > you mean by "turn off" ? > > > > > > Summary: > > > > > > Things to consider which are hosted (or redirected from) > > > netbeans.org: > > > > > > - NetBeans WWW (the page you arrive at when doing netbeans.org) > > > - NetBeans Maven. (i.e. bits.netbeans.org/maven2 --> > > > bits-adc.netbeans.org) - Sonatype Nexus Maven Repo. > > > - NetBeans downloads (netbeans.org/downloads), download of NetBeans > > > IDE up until v8.2 > > > - NetBeans Wiki (wiki.netbeans.org) > > > - NetBeans API Docs > > > - NetBeans Plugin Portal > > > - NetBeans Mercurial (hg.netbeans.org) > > > > > > > > > (all of it legacy of course) > > > > > > In particular for the legacy NetBeans Maven repo I think we as a > > > community have an OBLIGATION to make that available "forever", or at > > > least to place somewhere which (we think) won't go away anytime soon. > > > We need to salvage the artifacts and make them available somewhere > > > else. We cannot assume that Oracle will take on that resp. I'll be > > > happy to work on that. I understand it cannot be affiliated with the > > > Apache NetBeans project. GitHub can act as a Maven Repo so that may > > > be > > > a simple solution. Bintray Jcenter is another. > > > > > > But as people have mentioned there are also the other things on the > > > list above to consider, besides the Maven repo. > > > > > > Suggestion for structured way forward: > > > Is the list above exhaustive? > > > If so, a Jira Ticker for each of them where we track decommissioning. > > > For some of them that may already exist. An overall Jira > > > "netbeans.org" ticket too which links to the individual tickets. Then > > > we work from that from that Jira plan. > > > > > > > > > my 2c. > > > > > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:32 PM Ernie Rael <err...@raelity.com> > > > wrote: > > > > Absolutely, it's a good looking replacement for the old portal. > > > > I'll be > > > > happy to see the new portal's catalog available automatically in > > > > NB. > > > > > > > > -ernie > > > > > > > > On 1/14/2020 12:52 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > > > > And the NETBEANS-3569 issue has been implemented. > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion, the new NetBeans Plugin Portal 3.0 is ready to > > > > > replace > > > > > the old one. I hope you agree Ernie. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > -Jirka > > > > > > > > > > Dne 07. 01. 20 v 19:43 Ernie Rael napsal(a): > > > > > > On 1/3/2020 1:05 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Antonio, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my opinion the new Plugin Portal 3.0 [1] is ready for > > > > > > > usage > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that until [NETBEANS-3569] is resolved, the portal is > > > > > > not > > > > > > ready for general usage. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's fine for creating the update center catalog, but not for > > > > > > user > > > > > > browsing or downloading. > > > > > > > > > > > > -ernie > > > > > > > > > > > > [NETBEANS-3569] > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues. > apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D3569&d=DwIDaQ&c= > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_ > Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_ > Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=JtwSZNx7C6MpXY_FtzO1piKcWAiPBHKIgKmiz_ZmjyA&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > unsuitable/failed-verification plugin not indicated > > > > > > as such > > > > > > by plugin portal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if anyone would like to access the old plugins s/he can > > > > > > > use the > > > > > > > snapshot [2] hosted on Emilian's private VM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ > netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_&d=DwIDaQ&c= > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_ > Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_ > Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=ycECpvpGMDj68vnP0CmMChRDhTv4phmlQ6xMelh3WdQ&e= > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki. > apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Where-2Bto- > 2Bdownload-2Bplugins-2Bfor-2BNetBeans-2B10.0-2Band-2Bearlier&d=DwIDaQ&c= > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_ > Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_ > Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=2vTtGB--cbv4J6m1nT5VG8YKDKAQT6UvJXfJtuBSoLo&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jirka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dne 02. 01. 20 v 19:03 antonio napsal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jirka, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's an open issue here > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues. > apache.org_jira_browse_INFRA-2D17245-3FfocusedCommentId- > 3D16876231-26page-3Dcom.atlassian.jira.plugin.system. > issuetabpanels-253Acomment-2Dtabpanel-23comment-2D16876231&d=DwIDBA&c= > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_ > Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=72SLBuSzP0_ > CuN7qTUrzwH7aLpJT_Y8-1iiDGVYwxNc&s=B0m3fYY_FOJ17cE4dm9zTb8IiDQ0AvbFt5IaLP > e8lBg&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the plugin portal will stop working. Don't know if > > > > > > > > the new > > > > > > > > plugin portal is a substitute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 2/1/20 a las 16:56, Jiří Kovalský escribió: > > > > > > > > > Hello folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many of you know we have successfully matured to a > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > level Apache project in 2019. How about turning > > > > > > > > > netbeans.org > > > > > > > > > domain in 2020? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we identify parts which still need to be > > > > > > > > > migrated? 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