I understand the work it may take to transfer this over to applicable parties...but what is the alternative? There would be a lot of lost valuable code out there .
Will the hg server be going away at some point? Will that code remain there (as an archive, maybe read only) or is that destined to go away at some point? If it is going away what is the time frame of that? IANAL but assume the effort takes (1) reviewing all code for (Oracle) IP not wishing to donate (2) remove (stub out - maybe break something :-) any of said IP as applicable (3) update the headers to remove/add/modify existing licensing of said code * Is updating headers the responsibility of current owner (Oracle) or the new caretaker? * Wasn't there already some netbeans tools to help do bulk header updating in some way already? If so can more details be provided on that? (4) push code to applicable repository (i.e. apache/netbeans, contrib, plugin, or whole new repository, etc.) (5) identify "project caretaker/owner". Assume this involves someone to at least take responsibility for it but does not necessarily mean maintain it fully. * assume the person "pushing" the code (see item (4) ) initially would be a transitional owner/caretaker until a new owner has to be found * Silly question, but the persons who originally created the capability, are they not able to take ownership in some way (assume unless signed away in some way, they may have some form of ownership of it to a degree) or has it been the case that either (1) they are Oracle and no longer able to support it, (2) external to Oracle and are just no longer interested in maintaining it? (6) maintain project (bug tracking, repository, documentation ,etc.) * if no one maintained then it remains "unmaintained" until such time as it does or it's moved to the archives of history. Is there anything preventing just pushing all the remaining unclaimed to some "netbean-orphan" project repository and have people pick them up as time and interested parties arise? I ask this because it sounds like if no effort (I know time and resources) is spent to transition this, then it's of no value anyway, so seems like bulk transition may at least add some value. Eric Bresie [email protected] On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:47 AM Matthias Bläsing <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Am Freitag, den 10.04.2020, 16:38 +0200 schrieb Christian Lenz: > > Anyway, other question, qhat will happen with the code under oracle? > > Let me guess: Nothing. So in the end, donate the code and thats it. > > No need to discuss that to much. > > This does not happen by itself - I only know Oracle from the outside > and thus can only guess how they are internally structured, but my gut > feeling is, that donating code is not something, that is a common > situation in the legal department of Oracle. From past experience I > know, that legal departments can be a pain to work with (not because > they are evil or stupid, but because they ask the questions no one > wants to answer). So in the end it does not only take someone to > finally integrate the code, but also someone to sheppard the code > donation. > > In the end it boils down to: How much is there, that can (and will) be > reused and how much is better thrown away and rewritten. I know that > there is code, that is better deleted, than reused and that includes > code I wrote. > > This is just to say: If there is a valid use case, I'm all for going > through with it, but keep in mind, that this might take away time > better spent on other things. > > Just my 2cents. > > Matthias > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
