Hi Neil,

The ghost.io article you refer to is a good read and as far as I can tell, 
still relevant today.

Generally Apache does not require ICLA from small-patch contributors. If a 
large-patch contribution comes in, generally projects may request an ICLA/CCLA 
depending on who owns the intellectual property.

When I've been involved in the past with "to icla or not to icla" the question 
has come down to "how big a problem would reverting this patch be?" 

So look at it from the risk perspective. If someone (e.g. the submitter's 
employer) claims intellectual property rights over a contribution and the 
project subsequently had to revert the contribution, how much of a problem 
would that be? If it would be a major hassle, a contributor document would be 
requested. To avoid that risk, the PMC can decide to require an ICLA/CCLA 
before accepting a patch. "No one is going to tell the PMC what to do here".

By the way, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a lawyer.

Craig

> On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Neil C Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned in the review thread, I'd quite like to discuss and
> clarify when (if at all) we require an ICLA from contributors.
> 
> I've seen a number of PRs recently where contributors have been told,
> or otherwise assume, that they require an ICLA for quite simple
> contributions.  I've also seen contributors told (incorrectly AFAIK)
> that ASF *requires* an ICLA for larger contributions.  At other times,
> we've merged fairly large contributions without.
> 
> We (as in PMC) should decide what criteria we have here, but it would
> be good to apply consistently, and not needlessly put barriers in the
> way.
> 
> This seems a good read - it's not at ASF, but it's well linked in to
> things that are, and as far as I know is still accurate.
> https://apetro.ghost.io/apache-contributors-no-cla/
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Neil
> 
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