Is anyone working on python? If not, what needs to be done to start the ball rolling? Is it still pending Oracle vetting for the donation?
Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hopefully there isn’t a newer thread on this but was looking through > old emails. > > > > > > Assume this is related to > > > > > > NETBEANS-4538 Please support Python. > > > Is the contribution in question the same as associated with the > nbpython.org project? On that site it seems to indicate it’s dual > licenses. > > I looked at the nbpython.org site which seems to be slightly broken (i.e. > forum and contribute areas fail to load). There has been no activity it > appears since around 2015 if I’m reading it correctly. > > Are the contributions available on the hg site? Looking there at > hg.netbans.org I don’t see anything so not sure where else to look. > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 1:05 AM Julio César Rocha <julioc.ro...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What needs to be done by us individually? >> >> I contributed a bit of build logic about 6 years ago. >> >> Whichever commits are attributed to me, I'd obviously donate. >> >> I had also signed the OCA before. >> >> >> >> On 2020/04/13 05:13:17 Lou Dasaro wrote: >> >> > Everyone on my team was required to sign the OCA before committing code >> was allowed. >> >> > I'm sure we could sign something else if need be. >> >> > Most of the code was written by Sun employees who are long gone. >> >> > I am not able to work on the project, except for consults like this. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > On 2020/04/10 13:31:45 Matthias Bläsing wrote: >> >> > > Hi, >> >> > > >> >> > > Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2020, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: >> >> > > > The argument could be made that since the code was part of contrib >> under >> >> > > > the OCA (Oracle Contributor Agreement), it belongs to Oracle and >> Oracle can >> >> > > > simply donate it. >> >> > > >> >> > > yes - and assuming, that correct procedure was followed all >> >> > > contributions to netbeans had to be covered by an OCA. (for all this >> >> > > IANAL applies) >> >> > > >> >> > > Oracle puts itself into a position of massive power when requiring the >> >> > > OCA (applies to all projects using CLAs). Oracle is the only entity, >> >> > > that can for example take the OpenJDK Code, slab their "Oracle JDK" >> >> > > label on and sell it with a license, that is incompatible with the >> >> > > GPLv2-CPE. This is only possible, because every contriutor has to sign >> >> > > the OCA and thus gives Oracle a full license. >> >> > > >> >> > > I quote from the OCA: >> >> > > >> >> > > You agree that each of us can do all things in relation to your >> >> > > contribution as if each of us were the sole owners, and if one of us >> >> > > makes a derivative work of your contribution, the one who makes the >> >> > > derivative work (or has it made) will be the sole owner of that >> >> > > derivative work. >> >> > > >> >> > > So yes Oracle has "owner equal" rights to the code (and demonstrates, >> >> > > that they excercise that right (see OpenJDK)). In any case, >> >> > > contributions also applied to the NetBeans core, so if Oracle now >> wants >> >> > > to pull the "OCA is a problem" card, the ball was already dropped. >> >> > > Noone forced Oracle to use an OCA, that was and is a deliberate >> choice. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > So I'll reverse the question: How should it work, that all individual >> >> > > contributors validate, that they own the code and how shall we >> >> > > (NetBeans PMC) validate that? In this case relying on OCA and proper >> >> > > procedure of contribution in the past are invaluable. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Greetings >> >> > > >> >> > > Matthias >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> > > >> >> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> > >> >> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > Eric Bresie > ebre...@gmail.com >
