On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:04 PM Neil C Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 05:45, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > As version 12.2 got out,
>
> Congratulations! And thanks.
>

+100!

> - Our love and hate relationship to nb-javac needs to be resolved. We
> > suggest people to go without it, then we suggest people to try that.
> > Also with the current release we see an increased amount of NPE-s and
> > parsing errors. If we would like to have it around, maybe we need to
> > able to patch it, even if outside Apache. But at the moment even me the
> > latest RM do not know what to think about that.
>
> Drop it! ;-)
>
> Or if we keep it, then absolutely in favour of Matthias' blocker for
> next release.  Move to delivering nb-javac via Maven and plugin
> portal.
>
> Previous releases have been delayed by nb-javac not landing before
> freeze, and not being adequately tested.  Even landing at freeze feels
>

+1

too late.  And the third-party UC is another cause of problems, and we
> shouldn't need an IDE release just to deliver an nb-javac update?
>

On this, one thing I'd like to note is that, at least between NetBeans 6.0
and Netbeans 8.2, NetBeans (Java editor) was always bound to a single
version of (nb-)javac, for better or worse.

We need an IDE release (or update) to fix a small bug in java.hints, PHP
editor, to update any of the bundled libraries and tools (including Apache
Ant, Lucene, Maven, etc.), and even JavaFX, as far as I know. Is (nb-)javac
really so different?

Jan


> To deliver nb-javac via plugin portal we would also need a per release
> catalog - not just 11, 12, etc.  And possibly one explicitly for dev.
> If nb-javac stays then is a snapshot version in dev (for master) that
> tracks upstream javac commits feasible?  That process feels like it
> could be partly automated, but not here obviously!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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