Hi all, what is the problem you are experiencing?
Sven On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 5:54 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I've checked that a few years ago. While it can generally work. > There is real use to do that. You can regard it as a Gradle frontend to > an Ant project. You can call the NetBeans with Gradle, but all the build > mechanics would be driven by Ant. > > The complete transformation is not impossible though. I've got the > platform modules at least compiling, some of the modules can be tested > as well. The Big Bad thing needs to be fixed is the OSGI bootstrap. So > if we could get that work, then it would not be that hard to do the rest > of the work. Though that would require a Jaroslav Tulach caliber of > knowledge... > > On 12/12/20 3:08 PM, Hector Espert wrote: > > I'm testing Gradle ant support > https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/ant.html to load the Netbeans > ant build system and launch it from Gradle. > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2590 > > > > It isn't a radical change in the build system and it can allow us to > improve the build system using the advantages of gradle without rewrite all. > > > > Laszlo, could you have a look in this and if it can help you? > > > > > > On 2020/03/16 16:42:20, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Well, I was thinking about that as well, unfortunately there are some > >> negative trade off-s with that I see right now. Maybe a way later down > >> on the road, if it ever comes that we switch to Gradle as a main build > >> system. > >> > >> So right now Gradle reads all 812 projects which gave a 8-10 seconds > >> overhead at the initial build startup (on my system), I've optimized a > >> bunch of things (rewrote the project.xml parsing in Java) and now it > >> take 3-4s to read all modules and set up the dependencies between them, > >> it also allows parallel module builds, so the pure platform (around 120 > >> modules) can be built in 25s. > >> > >> The build is clustered in a way that it has a build<cluster>Cluster task > >> to build just a specific cluster. Right now I'm just dreaming of to be > >> able to run anything (still fighting with some classpath issues running > >> the Unit tests), but I can imagine to have a ./gradlew > >> runPlatformCluster which builds and runs a barebone Platform and > >> ./gradlew runPhpCluster for those who cares more of Php. > >> > >> On 3/16/20 8:45 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > >>> Hello Laszlo, > >>> when you are at it, you might make the build system more "cluster > based". > >>> It would be nice to > >>> ``` > >>> cd platform > >>> gradle run > >>> ``` > >>> and get a running barebone NetBeans Platform. Or rather > >>> ``` > >>> cd php > >>> gradle run > >>> ``` > >>> and get a PHP only distribution. We need to address this somehow as the > >>> NetBeans codebase is starting to become as big as it used to be and it > is > >>> anoying to wait for compilation of all the features one doesn't really > care > >>> about. > >>> > >>> Just my 2 Kč idea. Best regards. > >>> -jt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> so 7. 3. 2020 v 17:33 odesílatel Laszlo Kishalmi < > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> > >>> napsal: > >>> > >>>> I read those, however not really in context of NetBeans. NetBeans has > an > >>>> Ant based build system with a bunch of custom tasks. On module level > it > >>>> is very effective, on cluster level it is not so. > >>>> > >>>> I'm doing this as of a personal challenge, fun and learn. If there > would > >>>> be anything useful coming from it, I'll share. > >>>> > >>>> On 3/7/20 8:13 AM, Eric Bresie wrote: > >>>>> +1 > >>>>> > >>>>> I suspect you've probable reviewed some of these (1), (2), (3) > already > >>>> but > >>>>> thought it might be of interest. > >>>>> > >>>>> (1) > https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/migrating_from_maven.html > >>>>> (2) https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/maven_plugin.html > >>>>> (3) https://gradle.org/maven-vs-gradle/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Eric Bresie > >>>>> ebre...@gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 2:30 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2020, at 8:22 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi < > >>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> Dear all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I just would like to share the progress of my secret project: build > >>>>>> NetBeans with Gradle > >>>>>>> I'm still not sure how far I would like to go with this > experiment, but > >>>>>> if nothing else it could be a good test data for the Gradle Support. > >>>>>>> I had the following milestones in my mind: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> M0: Done: Get the project dependencies straight, without having > >>>> circular > >>>>>> dependencies: Right now it has 813 sub-projects in the known > clusters > >>>>>>> M1: Done: Get the modules in the Platform cluster (and the harness > >>>>>> cluster) compileable. > >>>>>>> M2: TBD: Make the unit tests pass for the Platform Cluster. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> M3: TBD: Make the output of the Platform cluster actually runable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How it works: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have a specific NetBeans Gradle Plugin which reads the > >>>>>> nbproject/clusters.properties and each module nbproject/project.xml > >>>> file to > >>>>>> get the dependency configuration. other configuration items are read > >>>> from > >>>>>> the nbproject.properties file. In theory we do not have to do any > >>>> changes > >>>>>> for an ordinary module it shall work out of the box without even > having > >>>> a > >>>>>> build.gradle file. There are however some special cases where > >>>> build.gradle > >>>>>> file is required. Unfortunately there are some dependency tangles > >>>> between > >>>>>> the modules causing circular dependency in Gradle. In these cases I > had > >>>> to > >>>>>> split up the modules between test and source projects. > >>>>>>> If anyone would like to have a look: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> please clone the gradle2 branch of my fork: > >>>>>> https://github.com/lkishalmi/netbeans > >>>>>>> The Gradle build right now needs the help to fetch the external > >>>>>> dependencies: ant download-all-extbins > >>>>>>> But after that one: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ./gradlew buildPlatformCluster -x check > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> shall work. (It currently requires JDK 11 or up) > >>>>>> This is great. Big +1. Getting the official build transitioned to > a > >>>>>> modern build tool is an excellent idea. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Scott > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Sven Reimers * Java Champion * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
