"This would require Jenkins build slaves for Linux, MacOS and Windows (which I understand that ASF indeed has) "
This is incorrect, the ASF doesn't have MacOS build slaves for Jenkins, which is one of the reasons why the MacOS Installer is still manually built following a successful vote of the VC. Regards John On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 08:13, Lars Bruun-Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we as a community need to fix the "native builds" issue very > soon. PRs are piling up. > > This current email thread is not the only one. Over the past 2 years > fixes have been made (PRs merged) to native binaries code in the areas > of > > * Native Launchers > * NBI (installers) > * Profiler launcher > > The problem is the same in all cases: The´source code is fixed but > there's never a new binary being build hence nothing really happens. > > These binaries were never re-build in an Apache NetBeans setting. They > were simply copied from their old Oracle-era location to > https://netbeans.osuosl.org/binaries from where they are picked up by > the Apache NetBeans build process but labelled as something which has > a CDDL license. This is legally correct but is a limbo state: The > source code is (now) owned by ASF but for reason of lack of time we > are still using the pre-ASF binaries. I can 100% understand why such > "shortcut" was made and salute those who made it happen. > > However, obviously it is sub-optimal that parts of the NetBeans > Platform and IDE distribution effectively cannot be bug-fixed. > > The right solution IMHO is that those parts of the Apache NetBeans > universe would be a first-class citizen in the general Jenkins build > pipeline for the Platform and IDE distribution. By first-class I mean > that the binary is automatically re-build whenever the source code > changes. This would require Jenkins build slaves for Linux, MacOS and > Windows (which I understand that ASF indeed has) and it would probably > require quite a bit of setup work to get right. Apache NetBeans is a > Java-oriented community so knowledge about building C/C++ binaries is > limited which is probably why nobody so far is stepping forward. As > Ernie suggests there may be a short term solution too which is more > quick-and-dirty i.e. someone would re-build locally, verify the > binaries and then upload as one-shot fix. However it is not always > that simple. The binaries are distributed as one ZIP. If one decides > to only re-build the binary for the Windows platform then this current > packaging breaks down because then you have one binary in the ZIP > which is ASF and the others which are CCDL and no longer build from > the same revision in the VCS. It would be a mess. Therefore, in many > ways, I'm not sure the quick-and-dirty solution really exists. > > Is this a correct status ? > > Lars > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 2:07 AM Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Build issues aside, I think the code in the PR actually needs at least a > cursory review from someone else than the original author. Others, like > myself, have passed by and tested the fix or left other comments, but I'm > not sure anyone sat down and reviewed it all in one sitting. > > > > ( https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2021 ) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ernie Rael <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 12:34 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Profiling on 64bit Windows > > > > On 1/11/2021 6:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > What needs to be done? Can you provide a PR? > > > > Sadly no. I suspect that someone who knows their way around a > distribution would have that knowledge. I could be wrong, but I suspect > it's simple. > > > > If it is simple and it hasn't been done in two years, I'd guess it's > more a lack of will or willingness to just check in the binaries. > > > > -ernie > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 15:33, Ernie Rael <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> There's been a fix for the 64 bit windows profiling problem for over > > >> two years. > > >> > > >> https://github.com/pedro-w/netbeans/releases/tag/v0.1-alpha > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1428 > > >> > > >> AFAICT, it hasn't been integrated. There's some discussion every few > > >> months or so on how to get the binaries to be automatically built as > > >> part of the general build. An answer hasn't been found, so the > > >> problem remains. These binaries have been around and in use for quite > a while. > > >> > > >> This issue seems stuck in the /Perfectionism is the enemy of > > >> progress/ trap. > > >> > > >> Can't the binaries be checked in and included, while the > > >> investigation for a solution proceeds? > > >> > > >> -ernie > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
