Soooo...if one was to want to implement new Python or other new languages,
it would be possible to implement and leverage one of the implemented
servers like those defined here?

https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/

Eric

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:05 AM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
wrote:

> You can see the full list (more are coming soon) of all languages which we
> can have in NetBeans here:
> https://github.com/Chris2011/netbeans-textmate-files
>
> This is just simple basic syntax highlighting for over 50 languages. Well
> known and some not well known.
>
> What is needed here for every language is:
>
> - Semantic syntax highlighting (more than with textmate I think)
> - Formatting (custom implementation or LSP?)
> - Refactoring (renaming, find usages, go to, etc. – LSP needed)
> - Hints/Fixes/Suggestions, etc – LSP needed + custom implementation if LSP
> doesn’t have that much
> - Braces matching, automatic closing of braces (custom implementation?)
> - Code completion – LSP needed
> - Code templates – custom implementation
> - Showing errors of the Syntax or Control flow – LSP needed
>
> So as an alternative to ANTLR which of course is good, we Need those stuff
> for textmate too. Where we can all implement the stuff based on textmate
> files and not only on g and g4 lexer and parser. If possible.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: John Kostaras
> Gesendet: Freitag, 2. April 2021 16:17
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: How to Implement a New Language
>
> Hallo,
> the best 'tutorial' is chapter 11 of Pro Apache NetBeans
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Apache-NetBeans-Building-Applications/dp/1484253698
> >
> book, even though it doesn't use the modern trend of TextMate and LSP, but
> it is based on ANTLR.
>
> This confluence page
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins>
> provides an overview of the status of language support of Apache Netbeans.
> The situation is really bad, compared to the language support that existed
> back in  NetBeans 8.2 for example, or even earlier versions. There are many
> old and half-baked plugins for many languages, and I don't know what is the
> best way to move ahead in this respect.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 23:02, antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
> > Very true. Maintaining an ANTLR grammar over the years is difficult and
> > time consuming (see for instance all the changes to the NetBeans C++
> > grammar in NetBeans [1]).
> >
> > LSP servers, when mantained by knowledgeable teams, may give better
> > results with less effort. Apple, for instance, decided to move to clangd
> > (from libclang) a few years back ([2]).
> >
> > For simpler languages/DSLs I think Eclipse's XText
> > https://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/ outperforms JetBrain's MPS
> > https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ (the generated parsers could then be
> > reused in NetBeans).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://github.com/emilianbold/netbeans-releases/commits/master/cnd.modelimpl/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/modelimpl/parser/cppparser.g
> >
> > [2]
> > https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2018-April/057668.html
> >
> >
> > El 29/3/21 a las 11:39, Christian Lenz escribió:
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > for myself I prefer adding new languages with textmate nowadays and
> LSP.
> > It is not possible for some languages to find updated versions of the
> ANTLR
> > Grammar file. For example C#. I dunno how it is for rust but yeah, I
> still
> > prefer Textmate. We Need to figure out how we can create the Tokens based
> > on the textmate file instead of ANTLR. I would prefer that. In the end,
> > everythins should be then the same as for ANTLR.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> >
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