Here's where you'll find all the pull requests: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pulls
Here's the PR for the SecurityManager: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3003 Here's another one: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2954 You'll find that a whole bunch of developers are continually quietly continuing with the work that needs to be done, in fact, here's everything right now done already for 12.5: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestone/13?closed=1 Gj On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:18 PM Ty Young <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe a bit too negative, even for me. Netbeans has seen various > improvements over the years although it does feel slow and small. I > suppose that's just because of it being purely Open Source and not > having a paid for version with which full time people can be paid to > work on it. Although, ironically, despite being a paid product, intellij > still has worse Maven support integration than Netbeans from what I've > experienced. > > > I had taken the previous statement about the JDK 17 / 18 being looked > into as progress being made into actually fixing the issues, but it's > not clear if anyone knows what the issues even are since AFAIK no one > has pin pointed anything. My understanding is that the command line > changes where reverted, so Netbeans should run on JDK 17 / 18 as it does > for JDK 16 but it doesn't. Why? > > > On 7/11/21 3:17 PM, Ernie Rael wrote: > > On 7/11/2021 11:15 AM, Jeremy Cavanagh wrote: > > > >> ... reason people are asked to join the group ... improve the > >> NetBeans IDE ... There are no liars here ... > > > > That's naive. > > > > I suppose we could have a philosophical discussion on where > > spin/misdirection/omission/forgetting becomes a lie. > > > > Sadly the project does not have the resources for general maintenance, > > let alone general improvement; the expertise/energy seems no longer > > available for older stuff. Some people put in a lot of work and their > > efforts seem to be for naught. > > > > I'm not saying that there aren't people who do yeoman's work. But a > > realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the > > public forums. > > > > -ernie > > > >> > >> > >> > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach > >> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 > >> From: Jeremy Cavanagh <[email protected]> > >> To: Ty Young <[email protected]> > >> > >> Hi Ty Young, > >> > >> There's no need to be rude. The reason people are asked to join the > >> group is to get involved and help provide solutions which will > >> improve the NetBeans IDE. To the benefit of *all* users. It is not a > >> club, nore is it an agony column where you turn up with problems and > >> expect immediately soothing solutions. > >> > >> Also, you need to remember that this is *not* a commercial enterprise > >> people work on the project because they believe in it and enjoy it. > >> > >> There are no liars here, only friendly helpful people that are > >> prepared to put up with idiots like me. Furthermore, nobody forced > >> you to join. Did they? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Jeremy Cavanagh > >> > >> On 11/07/2021 17:30, Ty Young wrote: > >>> I'm aware the sky is blue and water is wet, thanks. You had said > >>> that JDK 17 was being worked on. Clearly that was a lie. What's the > >>> point of forcing people to join a dev list just so you tell them this? > >>> > >>> > >>> Netbeans has never technically supported in-dev builds but they've > >>> always generally worked. What's going on here? > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/11/21 12:18 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >>>> Indeed, NetBeans does not support JDK 18 (also not JDK 17) at this > >>>> stage. > >>>> > >>>> Gj > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 04:12, Ty Young <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I use JDK 18 builds of Project Panama[1] that Netbeans does not work > >>>>> properly with. All classes with JDK 18 have errors with the package > >>>>> statement claiming that: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cannot access java.lang > >>>>> > >>>>> Fatal Error: Unable to find package java.lang in classpath or > >>>>> bootclasspath. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This happens even on the "dev" builds of Netbeans[2]. My JavaFX > >>>>> application and all dependency projects compile and run fine. Code > >>>>> completion and import suggestions are broken, Netbeans views some > >>>>> imports as unused when they are being used, and symbols(classes) are > >>>>> marked as "cannot be found" even though they have imports. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/openjdk/panama-foreign. Technically PR source > >>>>> here: > >>>>> https://github.com/mcimadamore/panama-foreign/tree/handle_address > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [2] https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-linux/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
