Awesome, thanks!

Le mar. 28 déc. 2021 à 13:25, Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Peter Cheung, Arafat Bouchafra, and me (Eirik Bakke) just had a Zoom video
> chat today, following up on this thread. The three of us are all software
> developers and long-time users of NetBeans.
>
> Icon drawing project summary:
> * Peter's company has two designers who work with Photoshop and
> Illustrator, and he may be willing to allocate some of their time to
> continue the icon drawing process that is tracked in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 . Peter will
> communicate with the designers.
> * Eirik has shared with Peter an Illustrator template file containing the
> first 50 SVG icons and artboards/bitmap templates for the next ~167 icons
> to be prioritized (also attached to
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 ). We did a screen
> sharing where Peter had a look at the file, layers, artboards etc.
> * Peter's designer will try to draw a small batch of ~10 icons in the
> Illustrator template. Then we'll discuss progress. Eirik can help turn this
> next batch of icons into a Pull Request, or walk Peter through how to do
> this. (Exporting the SVG files, adding license headers, copying SVGs into
> the right locations in the NetBeans repo etc.)
>
> Resources:
> * Style guide to be used for new SVG icons, consistent with earlier merged
> PRs: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617
> * List of artboards in the Illustrator file, and notes on each icon:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_pj-I3hk9Wj_7lvHcUDsZfFfBSyCkSGqBuv0qt_qXw/edit#gid=812179705
>
> Other topics discussed:
> * Arafat proposed more ambitious changes to NetBeans' look & feel, and we
> exchanged ideas. Eirik mentioned the recent discussion thread that ended up
> making FlatLAF the default LAF on NetBeans.
> * Arafat also mentioned possible approaches to get support for animated
> icons.
> * Arafat inquired about whether there still exists a "NetBeans Certified
> Engineer Course". He has been teaching Computer Science courses himself. We
> looked at
> https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/NetBeansCertifiedEngineerCourse.asciidoc
> , but this seems like an old page.
> * Eirik suggested sending out a separate email to [email protected]
> to discuss bigger or more controversial ideas. (Since decision-making in
> the NetBeans project is based on open discussion on the mailing list and in
> GitHub Pull Requests, rather than in meetings or private sub-groups.)
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:24 PM
> To: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>; Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Great! I sent invites to the people already in this thread.
>
> Merry Christmas!
>
> -- Eirik
>
> From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:21 PM
> To: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>; Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Thanks, accepted your request. Merry Xmas too
>
>
> Thanks
>
> From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk ,
> Mobile : 96554595)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 9:18 PM
> To: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Cc: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
> Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
>
> 10.00 (10am) UTC on Tue December 28 works.
>
>
>
> For anyone who'd like to join, please respond with your email address in
> this thread, and I can send you a Zoom meeting invite.
>
>
>
> -- Eirik
>
>
>
> From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 6:02 PM
> To: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
>
>
> Dear Eirik
>
>     Sorry late reply. Shall we do next tue 10 UTC ? thanks
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> From Peter
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:35 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
>
>
> At the moment, anytime 10.00-22.00 UTC Tuesday or Wednesday would work,
> for instance. Just let me know which time slot you prefer.
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>;
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Dear Eirik
>     May I know what time you ok for a net meeting next week? I ask my
> designers (Noel & Venus) to reserve time. It doesn't have to be hong kong
> day time, just any time that fit you is ok.
>
> Thanks Geertjan too
>
>
> Thanks
> From Peter
> ________________________________
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:00 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
>
> Great, progress! Yes, a report to this mailing list would be great to keep
> everyone informed.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 07:27, Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> Sure! Are you in Hong Kong? This week I'm on US east coast time and could
> do an evening call (US time) later in the week. December 15th through
> January 7 I'll be on central Europe time.
>
> I can show the current workflow I've been using for vectorizing NetBeans
> icons so far, and give you an idea of the work involved.
>
> If others are interested in joining, feel free to chime in. (We can write
> a summary for the mailing list afterwards.)
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:15 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Dear Eirik
>     We have read the google sheet. Do you have time to have a zoom this
> week? So we can have a jump start 🙂
>
>
> Thanks
> From Peter
> ________________________________
> From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:11 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Hi, Peter.
>
> Fantastic! I'm happy to join a chat--it would be good to include anyone
> else on this list who is interested as well.
>
> For actual decision-making, discussions should happen on the email list,
> so that everyone can follow along. But a Zoom meeting might be good for a
> quick overview.
>
> The style guide that was used for the first 50 icons is described on
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 . The original
> discussion around this can be found at
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2387 . (If helpful, I could add
> some example images to the style guide and perhaps pull it out of the JIRA
> issue and into a separate Confluence page.)
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Hi Eirik
>     We definitely want to help out for the icons. What style you want? How
> about I line up our designers with you for a meeting?
> Thanks
> From Peter
> ________________________________
> From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:50 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Hi, Peter!
>
> There is one big theme-related task which is pending, which is to create
> new SVG versions of various bitmap icons in the IDE, for modern
> Retina/HiDPI screens. I did the first 50 (in Adobe Illustrator), and picked
> out the next ones to be prioritized, as you can see here:
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026411/13026411_210604+Icons+Overview+Cropped.png
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_pj-I3hk9Wj_7lvHcUDsZfFfBSyCkSGqBuv0qt_qXw/edit#gid=812179705
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617
>
> If you are interested in helping with the icon drawling effort, I'd be
> happy to help coordinate.
>
> As for the Look & Feel, I think NetBeans will now be switching to FlatLAF
> as the default on all 3 operating systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I just
> transitioned my own NetBeans Platform application to FlatLAF, and it's a
> very good basis for making NetBeans look good in the future. It's also very
> configurable, so I think alternative themes can be implemented by means of
> configuring and improving FlatLAF, rather than by creating a completely new
> Swing LAF.
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Lenz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Hey Peter,
>
> great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF
> as a default theme to NetBeans which is already implemented, but we need to
> switch to it.
>
> What I can say what we need is a designer for maybe new UI components.
> Some components in NetBeans can be combined into one for example Input +
> button to search for paths etc.
> Some other parts need a redesign and also proposals. So let us know, what
> you think to change in NetBeans and show us some examples and let us
> discuss about it 😊.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Peter Cheung
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2021 04:38
> An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Betreff: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted
>
> Dear All
>      My name is Peter, from Quantr Limited. I love Netbeans and have been
> developed few plugins for it. This proves my ambition in Netbeans.
>
> https://gitlab.com/quantr/toolchain/netbeans-verilog
> https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/netbeans-quick-outline
> https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/MavenRunner
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFkhrHxHMw
>
>     Many people said VSCode and intelliJ looks fancier than Netbeans. We
> want to contribute our power to theme the netbeans, my company has two
> designers. Below are some of their artworks I have experience in java swing
> styling, I did developer a L&F ten years ago
> https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/peter-swing
>
>     Netbeans is very complex piece of code, we want team members to
>
>   1.  Guide us, instruct us
>   2.  Comment the style
>   3.  Help us when we meet trouble in code
>   4.  Coding
>
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d702288-c88d-4253-96b8-e81013f51b1d-c823/
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/3327f9a4-7128-4181-80ca-f276843f48ad-6674/
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/daef7604-73a6-47c8-8f6f-d1888e1038f9-8fbc/
>
> Hope to see a reply !!!
>
> Thanks
> From Peter
>
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