On 16.09.22 17:19, Ernie Rael wrote:
On 9/15/22 10:44 PM, Michael Bien wrote:
On 16.09.22 07:31, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
I started to reply on this, but not sure if I really pressed the
send button, and I do not see my reply. So I'm sorry if I'm
repeating myself.
So the Snap distribution does exactly the same (Snap provides the
infrastructure for that). Whenever NetBeans updated the user dir
gets copied from the current version to the new version and an empty
cache dir is created.
Good to know, I'll stay with copying and keep my eyes open for
non-compatible changes, or at least the squawking if one happens.
The huge advantage of copying the userdir is not having to install
plugins again.
BTW, my plugin has a lot of stuff in preferences and it defines
include/exclude in layers so it works well with the "Tools > Options >
Import/Export" buttons. But since it is not in the release compiled
layers...
yeah this area needs some improvements. I see periodically issues when
users import plugins from old NB versions (e.g 11) and break things.
(its probably nb-javac, since it changed namespace at some point which
allows it to be installed twice, resetting the config fixes it).
So there needs to be some cap. e.g nb_version - 2. But first of all, the
plugin portal probably needs to be fixed (i believe someone is working
on it), so that it isn't empty on new releases when most people update.
The import/export module config might be stored somewhere in the module.
If it is, it could automatically migrate the stable config on plugin
import from an older config. Since you say it works with the explicit
import/export via options but not with the auto import on first start?
If true, this is either a bug or a missing feature since I don't see why
it would behave differently :)
best regards,
michael
Thanks for the info,
-ernie
It is relatively safe to do that in the last few years, no one
really touched the config settings part.
The import from previous version does the same, however it has some
rules importing from NetBeans 5.5, 6.0, pretty old versions
(probably we can remove that code).
it should use the include/exclude list in etc/netbeans.import, which
is generated by the layer at build time ("OptionsExport" folder).
I didn't know that either but I figured this out when I added the
migration of the jackpot rule files so I didn't have to copy them
manually.
So you can influence what is migrated simply by editing this file
before first launch :)
-mbien
On 9/15/22 10:34, Ernie Rael wrote:
On 9/14/22 5:55 PM, Michael Bien wrote:
On 10.09.22 01:53, Ernie Rael wrote:
With release 15 I did something like
mkdir 15
cp -a 14/userdir 15/userdir
Then start NetBeans-15 using 15/userdir and a fresh cachedir.
Simpler than import settings. Is there any problem/downside doing
this?
the downside is that NB doesn't expect this to happen. So it might
work, or it might break (something). Since the config format might
have changed somewhere in between versions.
Yeah. And if it mostly works, that's the worst.
If you would just start NB 15 normally without a 15 folder, it
will ask you to migrate some of the config of 14.
I've had a non-standard setup/directories since windows days; can't
remember why exactly; maybe just cause I thought it sucked on
windows. Kept it when I moved to linux last year. Have my own
startup scripts.
I looked for a --initial-startup-import-from option, couldn't find
it :-)
Is it the same (or close enough) to use "Tools > Options > Import",
and grab everything from the prev userdir on first startup? Don't
think it is, but it might be after installing favorite plugins, so
what to import is defined.
Making a symlink got it too work. "cd ~/.netbeans; ln -s
~/.nb/.../prevudir 15" works. Something to add to my install new NB
process. This seems to pull everything from Preferences, even if
the plugins aren't installed yet.
Thanks for waving me off use prev udir,
-ernie
It will import settings like project groups, platforms, editor
config (even custom jackpot rules now), theme etc. but window
setup for example is reset. Thats usually how I upgrade - setting
up the windows again is only a few clicks, most of the rest is
already migrated.
I actually wanted to take a look if it would be feasible to
migrate some of the window setup too, have that somewhere on my
TODO list, but never looked into it.
-mbien
-ernie
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