There was a top comment on the "Apache NetBeans 15" HackerNews post some months ago that seems relevant:
"None of the blog that is linked here, Netbeans github page, and the official NetBeans website have a single screenshot of what the application looks like. If you compare that to IntelliJ IDEA's website, it's filled with screenshots accompanying a writeup promoting the feature displayed in the screenshot." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32835722 It would be good to address these concerns. But of course, this is all volunteer work for us, so it's up to whoever finds inspiration to make improvements... -- Eirik -----Original Message----- From: Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 3:23 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org; László Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> Cc: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> Subject: Re: Better release notes for NB17 - the Highlight label where to put it? Should we activate the wiki on github or how does this work? Would be good to be able to copy&paste github markup from PRs including screenshots without having to rehost anything. -mbien On 24.01.23 21:04, László Kishalmi wrote: > Let's bring the "New and Noteworthy" page back! If we start now we > might have one ready by the time of the release! > > I'd do the Gradle section, I guess my ANTLR work in this release is > not that interesting for the public. > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:29 AM Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I had the same thought. But wasn't sure if that is a good idea since >> the compact nature of release notes can be a feature in itself. >> >> The release highlights (new-and-noteworthy as NB used to call the >> page) with screenshots and clips is more something for blogs/wikis I believe. >> >> -mbien >> >> >> On 24.01.23 20:22, Eirik Bakke wrote: >>> I think screenshots might help a lot in creating more appealing >>> Release >> Notes. Often, screenshots from the PR can be reused. And we can >> always encourage people to attach screenshots in PRs when relevant. >>> -- Eirik >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:28 AM >>> To: Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Better release notes for NB17 - the Highlight label >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 16:11, Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> We can manually group the changes a bit better in the final release >>>> notes - just like Laszlo did with the Editor category of NB 16. >>>> Since its often that multiple PRs when taken together would create >>>> a noteworthy change. >>> Agreed! Although this is also how we (OK, mainly Geertjan! :-) ) >> highlight things on the download pages, blog posts, social media posts, etc. >>> Compare eg. https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb120/index.html >>> and >> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb16/ >>> The former was definitely becoming burdensome, but the latter is >> possibly not enough. >>>> FlatLAF update PR quietly introduces a new theme (highlight label >> worthy): >>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/5298 >>> ... >>>> (some?) PHP 8.2 support - but the PRs are already nicely grouped in >>>> that category >>> Good list! :-) >>> >>>> but tbh as someone who is often going around and labels PRs, I am >>>> already glad when they are labeled at all :) I am not really >>>> thinking about release notes at this point in the dev cycle. >>> Tell me about it! That's kind of the issue, along with grouping, >>> where >> maybe the highlight label is not the right way to do this? >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
